Posted on 09/26/2010 9:01:10 PM PDT by tlb
Ann Coulter doesn't mince words. And even when speaking to a gay conservative organization, GOProud, at their inaugural Homocon party on Saturday night, she apparently wasn't willing to start.
After a series of jokes about conservative that sounded -- and were received -- more like a stand-up act then a political speech, Coulter told the assembled (and predominantly wealthy) conservative gay crowd why they should oppose same sex marriage, adding, "I should warn you: I've never failed to talk gays out of gay marriage."
And then she did.
First, she ran down the stereotypical stand-up comedian's list of reasons, including that lacking the legal right to marriage allows the less-committed partner to weasel out of it. But in a more serious note, she parroted the losing arguments of the lawyers supporting California's Prop 8 and told the crowd that the reason she opposes (and they should oppose) same sex marriage is that it is strictly for procreation.
In one of a series of racially insensitive remarks that pervaded her speech, Coulter added, "Marriage is not a civil right. You're not black." It was part of a larger argument on which she later elaborated, telling the crowd that the 14th Amendment only applies to African-Americans and that it does not, in fact, apply to women, LGBT people or other minorities.
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Indeed, she didn't say anything racially insensitive. It's the opposite point of view that is. The writer is trying to put a spin on it.
She’s a dope, I have no respect for her anymore.
In fact this is one of the reason blacks tend to be more against gay rights than whites. It's an insult to the Civil Rights movement to equate the two fights. One was based on unfairly judging people strictly by a characteristic they have no control over, and the other is strictly based on a behavioral choice.
True. Thats why the coward like hit piece covering her appearance
There are no liberal groups I know of who are trying to become a part of the conservative movement.
If, for example, the Brady Gun Controllers started a subgroup called Brady Gun Control Conservatives, and were pushing for acceptance as conservatives because they believe in balanced budgets, then I'd say any conservative treating them seriously would be making a mistake.
Do you see the distinction and point I'm focused on?
Homosexuals are unrepentant sinners that use the force of government to force approval of their deviancy.
Thanks DJ, this is so good I wanted to repeat it so that the so called "libertarians" would be certain to see it.
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It's for whoever it says it's for. It doesn't say anything about black slaves, or even blacks. She's wrong about that. But I agree, it's got nothing to do with gays.
This is EXACTLY the mistake that conservatives have always made with libertarians.
Many libertarians embrace a far-left agenda (pro-death, pro-homosexual, pro-drug, pro-prostitution, etc.), but some conservatives seem to think we should ally with them because they profess to be fiscal conservatives.
Coulter’s talk drew a mixed response, but her presence marked the increasingly mainstream Republican embrace of gay rights. Coulter had a falling out with a conservative website that has published her, WorldNetDaily, over her attendance. “She’s doing something important – she’s showing her base that it’s OK,” said one attendee, Michael Lucas. (Lucas also confided to a reporter, “I wonder what Ann will think about the fact that I am the biggest producer of gay porn on the East Coast and probably in the whole U.S."
Wagglebee, there are some who are conservative with regard to some issues and liberal as to others. I am conservative on most issues, but I see that others may agree with me on some matters and not others. I think the gay marriage issue is not supportable for at least a couple of reaons (1— marriage already has a definition, meaning a lifelong union of one man and one woman, and that definition excludes same sex unions from being called marriages and 2— gay people can marry to the same extent as heterosexuals can— neither is allowed to marry someone of the same gender— all are treated equally), but I understand that there are those who are, like me, anti-abortion, pro-death penalty, in favor of limited government, etc. but who disagree on my analysis regarding same sex marriage. If that is the only issue where we differ, I (symbolically) embrace them.
That is NEVER the only issue.
Throughout history (at least until a few years ago), regardless of any cultural or religious beliefs, marriage has ALWAYS had a common element and that is there is ONE MAN and one or more women. There has NEVER been a culture where a union with more than one man or no men is recognized as a marriage.
Anyone who is willing to sacrifice thousands of years of values to satisfy the selfishness of less than five percent of the population is willing to sacrifice anything.
Coulter is still a liberal....and real conservatives see right thru her schtick
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Ann is not perfect. That being said, Ann is the closest thing to conservative perfection I have ever seen. Yes she went and talked to the queers and told them why they were wrong. She in no way supported them. Just because she realizes they are there and admits that they are there in no way hurts her conservative credentials.
There are a number of conservatives that like Mitt Romney. I don’t call her a liberal because of that. For goodness sake many of us supported GWB and he is certainly not conservative on any thing other than security and some social issues.
I know of no rule that conservatives can not have different opinions on some things and still be conservatives. Where is the conservative clearing house that all issues can be cleared through? Who authoritatively can say who is and who is not conservative.
In my book Coulter is up there with Reagan. If you read her books you will understand her statements much better. Her humor becomes much more meaningful.
Christians are not allowed to hate anyone. Coulter professes Christianity, how could she refuse to go and talk to the queers, maybe her talk will be the start of some of them turning.
Unlike you I don’t think there is any liberal schtick to see through.
I must have missed the part where Coulter told them that their lifestyle is immoral, an abomination in the eyes of God, and that our Founding Fathers found homosexuality to be a “disgrace to humanity”.
Coulter obviously tried to straddle the white line running down the middle of the highway on this issue.
What happens to people that stand out in the middle of the road?
Then.... you know nothing about the 14th amendment..
Could be you think America is a democracy.. also..
Christians are not allowed to hate anyone.
This is a homosexual talking point. Disapproval of deviants equals hatred. It does not. And anger is Scriptural. Try reading Mark 11: 15 - 19. That's righteous anger in the face of sin.
You're kidding right? Even why I've agreed with her she has reminded me of a whiny high school cheerleader with a perpetual case of PMS.
There are a number of conservatives that like Mitt Romney.
No, there aren't. There are a number of Mittbots who CLAIM to be conservative, there's a difference.
I know of no rule that conservatives can not have different opinions on some things and still be conservatives.
Militant homosexuality IS NOT some minor point, opposing it is critical to conservatism.
In my book Coulter is up there with Reagan.
Then you didn't understand Reagan.
Christians are not allowed to hate anyone. Coulter professes Christianity, how could she refuse to go and talk to the queers, maybe her talk will be the start of some of them turning.
But Christian ARE allowed to hate the sin and be outspoken about it.
Imho, Ann was unwittingly used by GOProud. She thought that she could handle this speaking engagement without damage, but she misjudged the situation and their agenda.
She was used. We saw it coming. There were even articles at the time that talked about her appearance lending homosexuals credibility. And we were being MEAN! *eyes rolling*
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