Posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:02 PM PDT by Kabud
This is the original news report from SPRINGFIELD, Effingham County in Georgia, next to the entrance of I-95 to Florida.
Effingham deputies call feds after arresting Russians with shovel, wire cutters outside Georgia Power plant
by Evgeniy Luzhetskiy
SPRINGFIELD — Effingham County sheriff deputies have reported the early Sunday morning arrest of three men to the federal Joint Terrorism Task Force.
The men, two from Russia and one from Kazakhstan, were found near Georgia Power’s Plant McIntosh on Old Augusta Road about 1 a.m. Sunday after a ranger with the Department of Natural Resources reported a suspicious vehicle, Effingham County sheriff’s spokesman David Ehsanipoor said.
Deputies reported the men, who were inside a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, had a machete, shovel, wire cutters and ski masks. One man also had black silk stockings in his front left pocket.
Arrested were Evgeniy Luzhetskiy, of Kazakhastan Nail Idiatullin and Rustem Ibragimov of Russia. All three reported they lived in Charleston, S.C., deputies reported.
The men were all charged with possession of tools during the commission of a crime.
The three were released after being interviewed by task force members, Ehsanipoor said.
"They did all have visas that allowed them to be here and are supposed to be leaving the country soon."
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By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:47 pm these people are not amish also there are not jews Their ethnic background is one Russian, possibly Christian, and two others Russian Caucasians, possibly Muslims; however this background stuff does not matter, because their true religion is Communism and ethnically there are Marxists - these people don't have motherland, but there are willing to possess the whole Earth. And America is the only country which is an obstacle on their way; so tehre are ready for everything to ruin it.
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:40 pm You just caught three very dangerous Russian diversants and you are going to let them go?! Do you know what will happen next? Let me explain you. Their bosses back in Moscow will see that it is totally OK to send their agents to the US to set up various attacks against Americans. In case if these agents are caught, there is no punishment for them and in the worst case these agents will be sent back home, as it was done a couple of months ago to the guys from a spy ring, and as it is going to be done now. It means, that in the future you will have to expect tens of thousands of Russians who will be setting up various diversions on you sensitive objects, and even if catch some of them, others will do the job! If you want my advise what to do with these guys - here it is: put them to jail for at least 10 years. Next time they should be scared to go to America with bad intentions. Yet, BTW, Russians will respect you more.
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By Kabud | 09/12/10 - 04:43 am
Setting up one of these devices is complicated. The bombs need a small amount of power to keep them safely in storage. For example, the GRU specialist might have to run a very small wire to an electrical source, such as a power wire, and then attach it to the weapon. The wires can be run as far as one hundred yards or more from the weapon. The wires are small enough that they would easily break if someone tampered with them or tried to follow them to their source. In case there is a loss of power, there is a battery
Nuclear devices can also be slipped across the Mexican or Canadian borders. It is easy to get a bomb to Cuba and from there transport it to Mexico. Usually the devices are carried by a Russian intelligence officer or a trusted agent. If a Russian intelligence officer was for some reason not involved, the human missile transporting the device would be killed after safely handing it over to a GRU specialist. This is a simple security precaution.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30259323/Why-Russia-is-More-Dangerous-Than-Eve...
2. Spetsnaz fighting shovel.
http://militaryanalysis.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html
The common Soviet/Russian entrenching tool. Sharp on three sides, a single monolithic object, unlike the current American entrenching tool. Used by Spetsnaz soldiers as a fighting weapon, silent, and in the right hands, downright deadly.
"In a combat training of Spetsnaz soldiers a great attention is paid to their ability to engage in hand-to-hand combat and to use hand-held weapon . . . an entrenching shovel is of special importance . . . it is a formidable weapon of the close combat."
"the entrenching shovel is an excellent throwing implement - the range of aimed throw made by a well-trained specialist is 10 meters or more."
A weapon used as a hand-to-hand fighting tool, and, WHEN USED IN THE RIGHT HANDS, A THROWING WEAPON ALSO!
Again - - from Suvorov:
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/09.html
"In the hands of a spetsnaz soldier the spade is a terrible noiseless weapon . . . The little spade can be used in hand-to-hand fighting against blows from a bayonet, a knife, a fist or another spade . . . Finally a soldier is taught to throw the spade as accurately as he would use a sword or a battle axe . . . As it spins in flight [the spade has] accuracy and thrust. It becomes a terrifying weapon. If it lands in a tree it is not so easy to pull out again."
Here, thanks to the Russian web site: "Entrenching Shovel in Close Combat. Version of Spetsnaz GRU. Basic Fighting Technique." you can see video clips of Alexander Popov [???], demonstrating the fighting shovel combat technique.
You see a lot of twirls, pirouettes, jumps, etc. Ballet-like in form??!! This is characteristic of Russian style martial arts? Russian All-round Fighting [RAF] DOES emphasize Russian folk dance as a basis for many martial arts "moves"!? An indigenously developed Russian close-quarters-combat fighting form that is very effective!?
I would ask the question too, HOW OFTEN WOULD SUCH WEAPONS BE EMPLOYED?
Martial arts as taught to special operations units the world over are obviously useful, to say the least, but how often used? I would think very rarely, if at all?
Such martial arts techniques are more than anything else an excellent way of developing physical fitness, building confidence, instilling aggressiveness, AND OF COURSE - - PERHAPS KILLING AN AMERICAN SENTRY - - NOISELESSLY - - WITH A KNIFE OR A SHOVEL!!
An even more frightful weapon is a spade in the hands of a skilled fighter. It was with the Soviet Army spade that we began this book. Ways of using it are one of the dramatic elements of sambo. A spetsnaz soldier can kill people with a spade at a distance of several metres as easily, freely and silently as with a P-6 gun.
Lunev asserted that some of the hidden caches could contain portable tactical nuclear weapons known as RA-115 "suitcase bombs". Such bombs have been prepared to assassinate US leaders in the event of war, according to him [1] Lunev states that he had personally looked for hiding places for weapons caches in the Shenandoah Valley area[1] and that "it is surprisingly easy to smuggle nuclear weapons into the US, either across the Mexican border or using a small transport missile that can slip undetected when launched from a Russian airplane [1]
God Bless USA
From Kabud | 09/12/10 - 01:37 pm http://losangeles.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel10/la051810.htm The FBI is coordinating a training exercise among multiple government and law enforcement organizations at the national and local level, to exercise response capabilities relative to a terrorist attack involving an improvised nuclear device. The exercise will take place Monday, May 17th through Wednesday, May 19th.
But mind that there is no such thing as `homemade nuke`. ON the other hand a suitecase device is a real one. So it is all just double speak.
From New York Times article published on 04/16/2010
Intelligence officials feared that bomb parts might be delivered in diplomatic mail pouches, carried by international air travelers in their luggage or delivered by boat or submarine to an isolated beach.
Communist agents already in the country might then assemble, plant and detonate the weapons. “Surveillance of all Communist Party members and sympathizers is impossible and impractical since numerically they exceed by many times the total Special Agent force of the F.B.I.,” a bureau memo complained. J. Edgar Hoover, the F.B.I. director, who was intensely focused on the smuggling threat, proposed increasing manpower to cope.
Among many potential nuclear saboteurs, F.B.I. field offices identified the proprietor of a left-wing bookstore in Seattle, a reporter for the Soviet news agency Tass and even a representative of the American Council for a Democratic Greece.
When the Polish consul to Detroit arrived in the United States in the mid-1950s with four big boxes, F.B.I. agents surreptitiously searched them for nuclear material. They found 24 bottles of cherry cordial but “no article or part thereof that could be construed as a portion of a weapon of mass destruction,” their secret report solemnly declared.
Security officials later speculated about whether China might set off a smuggled nuke in the United States and make it look like a Soviet attack, provoking devastating war between its rivals. Later, as portable tactical nuclear weapons proliferated in both Eastern and Western Europe, there were periodic alarms about their security.
In the 1950s the United States knew its adversaries had weapons; the mystery was whether they might use them. Today, said Jeffrey T. Richelson, a historian of nuclear weapons, the situation is reversed: Qaeda leaders have suggested publicly that they would use a nuclear weapon, “but as far as we know, Al Qaeda hasn’t even come close to building a bomb.”
(Excerpt) Read more at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/world/16memo.html
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When the US govt talks about “nuclear” devices and conducts exercises dealing with homemade ones, they are talking about dirty bombs, which are basically nothing compared to actual fission (A-bombs) or fusion (H-bombs) bombs.
my understanding is:
in 1983 USSR was very close to launch a surprise attack
But USA managed to somehow avoid it. Thanks to President Reagan, Judge Clark and of course Pope John Paul 2 and all those heroic figures with them
So later USA got to achieve strategic advantage against USSR
with a price of oil and Pershing rockets to make it simple.
Soviet move in response was:
1.they went for cover up of Perestroika
2.they blew up(secretly of course) Chornobyl nuclear station
From what i heard and the source is rather serious:
Gorbachev was a stooge of Primakov,
who still runs things in Russia behind the backs of clowns like putin or that other midget ,
Gorbachev agreed to become A Man who will launch an attack later. That was a MUST for Gorbachev to be appointed.
But thing went sour for soviets when Germany after unification did not go red as they expected.
So we may say that Cold war we(USA and Christian world) did win.
Or I rather say we won that battle of the 1980s.
But now they are up for revenge
Lets embrace our selfs and find a political and military answer to this threat.
they announce things like that on regular basis for years
to test our reaction and of course prepare for war
dirty bomb does not do a `trick`
look , lets think
Chornobyl was a 1000000 dirty bomb in one event:
radiation from the whole reactor was thrown into sky
The damage was big but ..not really something that can be compared even close to 9-11
u see..
We won the cold war all right. But those people are still around, still very dangerous. The communists think in longer terms like 20-year plans to rebound, the Chinese think in thousand-year plans. Americans don’t think much past lunch or next weekend. Our enemies are willing to be patient to get what they want.
I may be wrong with figures
but i referred to Ken Alibek
and here:
Russia signed the Chemical Weapons Convention on January 13, 1993 and ratified it on November 5, 1997. Russia declared an arsenal of 40,000 tons of chemical weapons in 1997
thats chemical
i cant find sources for biological right away- but it is in the open
i was skeptical before 9-011
skeptical as hell
not any more
Stalin had more arms then all of the Europe in 1941
by the way: USA businessmen armed Stalin to much extend
But that advantage including Stalin 10 million army diid not help USSR in 1941:
army deserted, weapons were left behind
Only after atrocities committed by Nazis became widely known in Russia things started to change
bttt
O Man THANKS for all details!
I read Demon in the Freezer, I have it in my book list here
http://books.google.com/books?uid=5652302884137400206&as_coll=0&source=gbs_lp_bookshelf_list
great read.
I was told by someone who saw bio weapons stored: he said CANISTERS, MANY, like THOUSANDS
it was from early 80s. may be still antrax?
pakistan: i dont think so.
Unless ruski are there.
USA is not going to be able to respond with nukes after a ruski surprise attack:
our strategic posture is very weak
We have NO mobile ICBMS
Ruski have a vast territory with around 5000 known fortified bunkers and fortified silos to withstand direct nuclear hit
The (if it happens of course ) will attack our silos and submarines that carry nukes
There are days i read when most of our subs are in repair or something
And our nukes are badly concentrated in known areas to them
Our bombers are also in like not many places and targeted.
We have a strategic posture INVITING ruski attack
Just one thing: mobile ICBM
If we only get THAT here and put them in disguise as a truck of some kind
Also we must figure how to put something like Pershings close to ruski targets.
Also their real leaders will not be present in Russia at the time of attack: they most likely be hiding in Western Europe or even further away
So we must figure them first. real leaders not the clowns on TV
what an articulate response! as a former navy nuke, I’d be more afraid of the sub’s sitting in Groton than a conventional power plant...
This is incredible, on the streets of Moscow, yesterday @ end of Ramadan.
Story:
Tens Of Thousands' Of Muslims Flood Moscow Metro, Streets To Take Part In Holiday Marking End Of Ramadan
http://www.eurasiareview.com/201009097956/tens-of-thousands-of-muslims-flood-moscow-metro-streets-to-take-part-in-holiday-marking-end-of-ramadan.html
We have something like 2000 strategic nukes with maybe another 3000 that can be uploaded in MIRVS and bombers and the like. 5000 warheads are a serious deterrent force, but like I mentioned above, Russians rarely keep their word in any treaty.
Thanks for the ping.
A romantic outing, perhaps?
PING
True, but I thought we were talking about the cold war era.
“The three were released after being interviewed by task force members, Ehsanipoor said.”
“They did all have visas that allowed them to be here and are supposed to be leaving the country soon.”
WTH?????
Sure, suspicious foreigners engaged in terrorist activities? No problem - just let them go. I mean, after all, they did have valid visas.
This is the very definition of national paralysis bordering on complete psychosis.
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