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Hugo Chavez 'Knows the Buttons To Push'(Ivy Tower lib gets dose of reality)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | September 13, 2010 | Michael Coleman

Posted on 09/13/2010 12:06:05 PM PDT by CedarDave

Washington - When Brian Nelson, a nationally renowned expert on Venezuela, traveled to the South American country on a Fulbright scholarship in 2002, he arrived believing that controversial Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez was just misunderstood.

"I was very pro-Chavez — I was opposed to the war in Iraq, kind of opposed to what we were doing in Afghanistan — and here was a guy who was saying what I thought," Nelson said in a Journal interview. "I went to Venezuela thinking, 'This is probably a good guy'. I found out pretty quickly that he isn't."

Nelson, who teaches at the Johns Hopkins University's Center for Talented Youth, is the author of "The Silence and the Scorpion: The Coup Against Chavez and the Making of Modern Venezuela."

Nelson, in the Journal interview, said Chavez is effective at projecting a populist image that resonates with some liberals, but a more troubling picture emerges once that surface is scratched.

"Chavez knows the left, he knows the buttons to push," Nelson said. "He knows how to wrap himself in the image of (Marxist revolutionary) Che Guevara and kind of the best ideas we have about socialism.

"But when you get underneath that, he's just a new veneer on same old kind of corrupt system," Nelson added. "Corruption has actually gotten worse under Chavez."

Nelson described Chavez as a ruthless, "extreme left" politician who routinely flouts Venezuela's democratic institutions and uses his control of the country's vast oil resources to reward his political allies and punish state and local officeholders he deems enemies.

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: chavez; hugochavez; venezuela
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Always glad to see a lib get "religion" with these third-world dictators. However, Nelson apparently still thinks highly of the socialist movement and socialism with his comment about "the best ideas we have about socialism." And that is still the thinking of these libs -- i.e. socialism works, we just don't have the right people administering it. So though he learned his lesson about Chavez, he still believes that the elites have the answers with what's wrong with our American system.
1 posted on 09/13/2010 12:06:12 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

Collectivism corrupts, absolute collectivism corrupts absolutely.


2 posted on 09/13/2010 12:08:56 PM PDT by Argus
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To: LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...
Nelson is giving a lecture about Hugo Chavez's rise to power this Friday (9/17) from 3 to 5 p.m. at the UNM Continuing Education Conference Center; 1634 University Blvd. NE. Tickets are from $15 to $20.

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3 posted on 09/13/2010 12:11:02 PM PDT by CedarDave (Ten-year anniversary - proudly Freeping since Aug 17, 2000)
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Chavez is a leftist. A stupid one too.


4 posted on 09/13/2010 12:11:06 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: CedarDave

As the cliché goes, a conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged.


5 posted on 09/13/2010 12:11:26 PM PDT by DManA
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Not wanting to subscribe is there an explanation as to why this comes out now instead of 2002 when he went there?


6 posted on 09/13/2010 12:13:55 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: GeronL

Stupid but cunning. And Nelson was supposedly an expert on Venezuela but had no clue as to Chavez’ real nature. I’m afraid that Nelson had on a perfect set of liberal blinders before he went there.


7 posted on 09/13/2010 12:14:34 PM PDT by CedarDave (Ten-year anniversary - proudly Freeping since Aug 17, 2000)
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A Venezuelian patriot with a bullet could change things quite a bit.


8 posted on 09/13/2010 12:15:03 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
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To: CedarDave

All these leftists who believe all of the lies from Cuba, Venezuela and North Korea are the “experts” they tell us.
They know less than they know.


9 posted on 09/13/2010 12:16:17 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: raybbr

You can read the entire article for free (see my #3). Nelson is giving a lecture at UNM on Friday which is why he was interviewed. It would be great for a conservative to attend and ask some pointed but polite questions on freedom, democracy and market based systems.


10 posted on 09/13/2010 12:17:31 PM PDT by CedarDave (Ten-year anniversary - proudly Freeping since Aug 17, 2000)
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"Tickets are from $15 to $20."

I guess Mr. Nelson isn't entirely opposed to capitalism but we should wait till next week to break it him that there is no Easter Bunny. We don't want to burst all his little fantasies in one week do we?

11 posted on 09/13/2010 12:18:34 PM PDT by hometoroost (Somewhere a community is missing its cruise director)
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To: CedarDave

It’s a start, but Nelson still seems to be a bit stupid- hasn’t had his “welcome to the war” moment yet.


12 posted on 09/13/2010 12:25:26 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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The left thinks that socialism is good and individual people have corrupted it. That is what they thought of the Zero, too......


13 posted on 09/13/2010 12:26:12 PM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him in his MY FAVES.............)
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I have worked with some Venezuelans in the energy industry ten years ago. Quite a few were looking for escape routes. One was applying for work at some of the Houston Ship Channel plants. These were not just engineers and managers, there were some maintenance techs looking to get out as well. It was 1999, and they already knew Chavez meant ruin.


14 posted on 09/13/2010 12:26:48 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: CedarDave

Sounds like Chavez was trained at Camp Obama.


15 posted on 09/13/2010 12:39:32 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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“I went to Venezuela thinking, ‘This is probably a good guy’. I found out pretty quickly that he isn’t.”

Yeah, welcome to the party there, Sparky. Chavez is a cunning thug, nothing more.

Colonel, USAFR


16 posted on 09/13/2010 1:06:51 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: CedarDave

17 posted on 09/13/2010 1:10:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: CedarDave

I agree with your conclusion. He’s saying Chaves is bad, but socialism is still good, and it just hasn’t been done properly yet. Over all, Nelson is still an idiot.


18 posted on 09/13/2010 1:35:44 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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"extreme left" politician who routinely flouts Venezuela's democratic institutions and uses his control of the country's vast oil resources to reward his political allies and punish state and local officeholders he deems enemies.

Wow, sounds just like somebody I've seen on TV recently.

19 posted on 09/13/2010 1:50:24 PM PDT by houeto (Get drinking water from your ditch - http://www.junglebucket.com/)
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To: jagusafr

Someone familiar with the region said the only thing stopping Chavez for going after Columbia is that no one is willing to die for him.


20 posted on 09/13/2010 1:54:39 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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