Posted on 09/02/2010 2:24:49 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
A career officer in the U.S. Army acting as a judge in the court-martial process for Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin today ruled that the military is no place for Barak Obama's eligibility to be president to be evaluated.
Army Col. Denise R. Lind today ruled in a hearing regarding the evidence that will be allowed in the scheduled October court-martial for Lakin that he will be denied access to any of Obama's records as well as any testimony from those who may have access to those records.
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Lind, who took 40 minutes to read her decision to the courtroom, disagreed.
She said opening up such evidence could be an "embarrassment" to the president and anyway, it should be Congress that would call for impeachment of a sitting president.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
I have addressed your points and much more through many posts to this almost 180 count thread. I will not repeat myself anymore other than to say that no judge will remove Hussein from office or deny him his powers as CIC. That is for Congress or the voters in 2012 to do.
LTC Lakin should be ashamed for what he has done to his family, for the father of his kids and husband of his wife will and should do hard time for refusing to deploy.
I didn’t think you could answer my question.
See 181.
Hmmm, if you’re trying to “enlighten” the “dim bulbs” on this thread, I guess your another MENSA member. Too bad your “enlightening” comments are as clear as mud.
Prissy snarkiness dripping with arrogant sarcasm while saying basically “I am right and you are wrong and btw Col. Lakin is a piece of crap” are not rational debating points or methods.
Stew in your own bile.
Oops misread. The courts are not going to go to Obama for him to produce his records. They would bypass him by going straight to the agencies that hold his records.
How did either Bush qualify? Or Clinton? Or Reagan? Or Carter? Or Ford? Or Nixon? How did they do it and when?
Hmmm, if you’re trying to “enlighten” the “dim bulbs” on this thread, I guess your another MENSA member. Too bad your “enlightening” comments are as clear as mud.
I was under the impression that the court was being asked to allow the defendant to subpoena the Hawaii Department of Health for a copy of Obama's birth certificate, not Obama himself. Therefore, there is no order being given to the White House should the court grant the defendant's petition. In other words, there is no separation of powers problem here.
Sooooo ... what part of constitutional due process do you consider meaningless fluff?
I don't have that problem much after over 2 years of following this issue.
NOT lawfully!!!
Well, since you feel free to impugn anyone who has the temerity to disagree with you, I'll be blunt--you don't bother to explain because you don't know what you're talking about. The judge made an obvious ruling that is soundly grounded in the law, there is no realistic chance it will ever be overturned, the outcome was obvious to anyone with legal training and expertise, and they predicted that outcome. They were right and you were wrong, because, again, you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.
Lakin either wants to be a martyr, or he has gotten extremely poor legal advice. If the former, he will get his wish; if the latter, too bad.
Let’s go one step further.
What if the Kenyan government released Hussein’s BC? What if other records show that he traveled on say, an Indonesian passport 20 or so years ago?
Then what? What effect will it have on LTC Lakin and the country?
“However, once I do have a chance to read it then I will no doubt agree with her findings. So I don’t think that there is any chance of it being overturned by a higher court.”
Spoken like a person who has already revealed thet he is so ignorant of our justice system that he does not understand that intent is a very important concept in any criminal case.
“Well, since you feel free to impugn anyone who has the temerity to disagree with you,”
I am impressed by your vocabulary, but big words from a fool don’t win an argument. This ruling violates Col. Lakins basic right to demonstrate what his intent was. You and I both know there is a very good chance it will be overturned. In your multiple posts on this subject on multiple threads your tactic here is generally to obfuscate the issue. You make silly claims that have no basis in reality but have some sort of legaleses sound to them and pepper them with big words and appeals to authority, “anyone with legal training and expertise”, “impugn”, “temerity”. LOL! As Bugs Bunny would say, “What a maroon”.
I did not say the judge would REMOVE Obama. I said he could order the document produced in response to your innacurate claim other wise.
Your frustration with us less intelligent people is clear. Have you thought to sign up with MENSA and join a chat room with people at your high IQ level instead of mixing with us rabble?
Sorry you cant seem to work your way through such easy to understand facts. I dont see how the law and the facts could be more plain. Sometimes you and I may not like the facts, but they remain facts regardless. How did you know this was the weekend for the Mensa picnic? Will I see you there?
Perhaps Lakin should question the authority of every member of his chain of command. Should he be allowed to examine the qualifications of perhaps a dozen senior officers? Why stop there? Shouldn't every service member who suspects the qualifications of his superiors be allowed to do the same in court?
I'm also waiting for someone to answer #194.
SvenMagnussen 03. Sep, 2010 at 8:13 pm
You’re quoting from an opinion written concerning a civil suit.
Lakin’s case is a criminal matter and he has a right to a defense, even if it embarrasses the CiC.
The convening authority can drop the charges or allow the defendant to defend himself against the charges.
See The Right to Present a Defense by Mark Mahoney.
http://www.harringtonmahoney.com/publications/Rtpad2009%20v1.pdf
Found at ObamaConspiracy
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