Posted on 09/02/2010 6:21:27 AM PDT by tlb
The Big Bang was the result of the inevitable laws of physics and did not need God to spark the creation of the Universe, Stephen Hawking has concluded.
In his latest book, The Grand Design, an extract of which is published in Eureka magazine in The Times, Hawking said: “Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist.”
“It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the Universe going.”
In June this year Prof Hawking told a Channel 4 series that he didn't believe that a "personal" God existed. He told Genius of Britain: "The question is: is the way the universe began chosen by God for reasons we can't understand, or was it determined by a law of science? I believe the second. If you like, you can call the laws of science 'God', but it wouldn't be a personal God that you could meet, and ask questions."
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“but it wouldn’t be a personal God that you could meet, and ask questions.”
That doesn’t logically follow.
Requires an assumption of a fact not in evidence.
If there were an infinite God (which I believe there is) wouldn’t He want to reveal Himself? Of what possible purpose would a Creator create something for no reason?
Sounds like Stephen has some gum on his wheel.
But I could be wrong.
Then you need to read the passage again. When was the sun created? It certainly wasn't before days were mentioned. Perhaps our revolution around the sun was based on a day, rather than the other way around?
I'm certainly not saying this is the case, but it cannot be disproven, either. I just find it interesting that the sun wasn't created until the fourth day.
My point still stands, though.
Let’s see now ... Trinity, Hiroshima et. al. demonstrated that matter can be converted to energy; I understand it’s been demonstrated experimentally that energy can be converted to matter.
But, if you start with neither, how is either “created”?
Dude vistited the taxidermist some time ago, now just a prop.
The Bible says through Christ Jesus, God spoke the worlds into existence.
Just as Jesus didn’t leave any ambiguity about who He was, so God didn’t leave any in the Creation days. You have to make a choice - believe man or believe scripture. Due to the order given in Genesis 1, you can’t warp scripture to “fit” man’s understanding or assumptions of creation.
It was a supernatural event, as we’ve determined here by the “ex nihilo” factor. So, yes, the sun, moon, and stars were created later than “light” existed.
God is Dead. — Nietzsche
Nietzsche is Dead. — God
It seems, Hawking making a declarative statement was that was needed all along. Who knew?
God is Dead. — Nietzsche
Nietzsche is Dead. — God
Zed’s dead, baby. Zed’s dead. — Butch
I agree. "On the first day God said let there be light"
If one where to contemplate the beginning of the universe. That would be one heck of a big bang!
I checked your personal page. I liked the picture,and I don't need an explanation.
For those who need one read Atlas Shrugged.
Logical fallacy of special pleading.
Our weak little minds can’t wrap around the concept of forever. We only understand time as having a finite beginning and end.
Science has already played with the idea that time is not absolute. Time going in one direction only as we experience actually creates a problem in physics. In a "something from nothing" universe a timeline is assumed ("from"), but a timeline did not necessarily exist.
We can’t fully comprehend infinity.
Already been done. Our mathemeticians even do math using infinity. The "infinite monkeys crating all the works of Shakespeare" exercise is meant to explain infinity.
As my favorite Bible teacher says... the Bible is what God has chosen to reveal about Himself to finite. There are many mysteries left that He chose not to reveal...
But I still don't get it...who made the rock?
So this is the atheist story of creation then. Keep it out of our schools.
There can be no more support for atheism and state than for church and state. The no god god cannot become the “defacto” state religion.
Who made the person who made the rock?
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