Vanity: Is Imam ObamCare the first Jizya tax on non-muslims in the USA?

Vanity | 8-20-2010 | Frantzie

[Frantzie]

Jizya is a per capita tax levied on a section of an Islamic state's non-Muslim citizens, who meet certain criteria.

[combat_boots]

I remember my inspiration that Muslims will be exempt from DeathCare. No one is writing about this anymore, but even Snopes is acknowledging this now:

(from April)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp

Health Care Bill: Muslims (and others) are specifically exempted from paying
« on: July 30, 2010, 02:37:AM »
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3431690.0.html

Other links from a poster at catholicforum.fiseaters.com:

Re: Health Care Bill: Muslims (and others) are specifically exempted from paying
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 08:34:AM »

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“Here are a few links that seem to confirm this report:

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/21699

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20100109/NEWS02/301099964

here is a famous Islamic site, and their recommendations for Islamic men and women who have to procure insurance:

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/130761/risk%20insurance

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/113924/risk%20insurance

If you read up on the exact wording of the bill, it seems pretty harmless, but it definitely sets the stage for religious groups like the Moslems, who have a religious conscience objection which can be tied directly to Islamic teachings, to be exempt.

Catholics should come together to find a way to circumvent this in a Catholic manner.
Let’s put our thinking caps on Catholics and find a way to Catholicize (revolutionize) the Health Care industry, after all, if I am not mistaken the concept for Hospitals, and free health care came from the Catholic faith, through the work our religious orders have done for centuries.

I personally have always had a problem with the concept of insurance and have not resolved my feelings for it.
My husband worked for a Traditional Catholic Group and was mandated to purchase insurance that made abortion a given practice covered by the insurance, but eye care was not.
We understand that the Religious Community had no say in the Insurance company policies, but it seemed very strange that killing a baby did not need permission, but if you were having a difficult time seeing, too bad, you had to pay out of pocket.”

[Frantzie]

Thanks. Wow - I am glad somebody gets it. ObamaCare is a Jizya (tax) on non-muslims.

[combat_boots]

Oh, and Ron Paul finally, FINALLY gets this, too:

Muslim will not be forced to purchase obmacare
Submitted by rwol9999 on Sat, 07/17/2010 - 22:27
in Activism
Word of the Day: Dhimmitude

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/140282

FR was on this almost from jump.

[Frantzie]

Sorry. My Catholic decendants knew how to deal with this because they were tired of being captured, having their families killed, wives raped and children murdered and taken into slavery.

It was called The Battle of Lepanto in 1571 AD. The Holy League was greatly helped by Beretta S.P.A., an Italian company founded in 1521 AD that made barrels for ambusters (rifles).

Maybe more faux catholics should study their own history instead of giving awards for partial birth abortion supporting Imams at Notre Dame or the union Catholics who votd for the Imam or the catholics helping illegal aliens turn america into a police state.

I know a few of these slimy catholics who pray the rorsary and voted for the Imam. People are so stupid and have no clue.

This is not “pretty harmless.” It is a Jizya or tax on non-muslims.

[combat_boots]

To: Cindy
I am going to say a prayer as I post this. In Jesus’ name, protect me. Amen:

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My 2 cents:

Please ask your Congressperson which religions are covered in the religious exemption mentioned in Section 1402(g)(1) and what provisions people practicing such religions are exempt from. Health Care? Education?

Specficially: Such religions as ‘the Secretary deems appropriate’ are ‘exempt’ from application of the Health Care bill, but what provisions of the bill they’re exempt from, etc. But, the history of the Hijri calendar is that it was 1st used in 1402 AD in the Gregorian calendar.

So, 1402 G - 1 could be a code word shout out to Islam. Since this is forcing ‘charity,’ the entire thing is zakat, the paying of alms to poor, widows and orphans, or, a perversion of it. One of the five pillars of Islam. Get it? You sort of have to think right to left, not left to right.

My point is simply that the whole bill is a declaration of war from a perspective I hadn’t even thought of—a missive from Bin Laden to take the economy out completely, even while Muslims may end up exempt. Year ‘One’.

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Health Bill H.R. 3200, Religious Conscience Exemption and sect. 1402

http://www.pajamahadin.com/?p=1376

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In re finding Section 1402(g)(1):

“The origins of the hijra calendar are recorded as having begun in AD 1402 on the Gregorian Calendar, so that the equivalent beginning of the hijra year 1 corresponds to 1402 in the Gregorian calendar:

“1402 A.H. began with the Lunation No. 728 in October 1981.
A conversion of Hijra years into the Gregorian calendar may be made using the following relationship:-
Christian Era (A.D.) = 621.54 + (Hijra in years and decimals) X 0.970225 “”

http://home.pacific.net.sg/~makhdoom/calend2.html

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There are references in the Health Care Bill, but, nothing beyond a reference to IRS code, although there is language in the Health Care bill, as there has been for some time:

171
•J. 55–345
1 sion thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and
2 an adherent of established tenets or teachings
3 of such sect or division as described in such sec4
tion.
5 ‘‘(B) EXEMPTION.—An application for the
6 exemption described in subparagraph (A) shall
7 be filed with the Secretary at such time and in
8 such form and manner as the Secretary may
9 prescribe. Any such exemption granted by the
10 Secretary shall be effective for such period as
11 the Secretary determines appropriate.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2472476/posts

[This I Wonder32460]

If one group is going to be exempt then they should have to pay for their own and not enslave the rest of us.

[combat_boots]

It is so absolutely cool that you are related to people who fought at Lepanto. As in KEWL.

[Lazamataz]

Dude. I am a Muslim for tax purposes.

Sudden conversion on Midnight April 14th. Sudden reversal on Midnight April 15th.

Two can play THIS game.

[Frantzie]

You have EVERY TV News channel/network praising Islam, supporting the Victory Mosque and saying he is a christian.

It is enslavement. This is what Islam does. TV is behind him 100% and they control the masses.

[Cindy]

I understand the Amish got the religious exemption.

If there are any other religions being considered for exemption, I am not aware of them.

HOWEVER...

What the final, final, final...ad nauseum version of the bill turned out to be regarding exemptions; I am not sure.