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The pens of anti-Muslim conservatives impact N.Y.C. mosque debate mightily [Geller & Spencer]
The Washington Post ^ | August 19, 2010 | Michelle Boorstein

Posted on 08/18/2010 10:35:58 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Long before President Obama waded into the vociferous debate over a mosque near Ground Zero, a group of conservative writers and bloggers critical of Islam had seized on the issue and helped transform it into a national political spectacle.

While some have dismissed them as bigoted attention-seekers, their attacks on the proposed Islamic center in Lower Manhattan have gained currency in recent weeks among some Republican leaders. And their influence appears to be growing.

They are organizing a Sept. 11 rally against the mosque that will feature former U.S. House speaker Newt Gingrich. They advise the FBI and other government security agencies on the threats posed by Islamic radicalism, headline "tea party" events and attract millions of readers concerned or curious about Islam to Web sites with names such as Jihad Watch, Creeping Sharia and Stop Islamization of America.

"People on the Hill, their staff read these sites, they show their bosses. . . . They push these subjects into the spotlight, often at a time when major media isn't doing that," said Cliff May, a columnist and former spokesman for the Republican National Committee who runs a think tank focused on religious extremism and religious freedom.

The most colorful -- and perhaps most visible -- activist at the moment is Pam Geller, a former New York Observer publisher who has appeared in a bikini and a super-tight Superman costume challenging Islam.

Through her blog, Atlas Shrugs, television interviews and appearances at political rallies, Geller has become one of the chief organizers of opposition to the so-called Ground Zero mosque as well as efforts to build other Muslim prayer centers across the country.(continued)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; cliffmay; gingrich; groundzeromosque; islam; military; muslims; newt; newtgingrich; newyork; nymosque; nzmosque; obama; obamagroundzero; palin; pamelageller; pamgeller; robertspencer; sarahpalin; sharia; terrorism; wtc; zerogroundzero
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1 posted on 08/18/2010 10:36:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I wish them luck on 9-11.

But that's weeks away. We need a massive protest NOW.

Massive Protest at Ground Zero on Sunday - August 22, 2010 - 10:30 am

2 posted on 08/18/2010 10:39:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We are the Media!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boorstein is either a complete idiot, or she is spinning the damage to Obama.

Obamz has taken a torpedo amidship, and it is a severe hit from which he will never recover.

Hoo-rah!

Why is there not a Shinto Shrine next to the USS Arizona in Pearl Harbor?

See:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html


3 posted on 08/18/2010 10:42:51 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I do now.
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4 posted on 08/18/2010 10:54:22 PM PDT by cruise_missile
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Newt leading this protest tell me he wants to be President. There is no uproar in media other than Scarborough and some left-wingers, no one is calling his stance bigoted or attacking him for being an extremist. Newt has also agreed to Climate-Change politics and Cap-N-Trade.

Bankers need chaos in streets to get people’s focus away from them. Maybe Newt has agreed to deliver. Usually media would be all over him for uttering a single non-PC line. Their silence indicates, Elites have picked a new President, and we are close to CHAOS phase of NWO.

You heard it here first: Newt will be the next President.

Hopefully, this Mosque thing would fade and he wins based on ideals he used to spouse. If his Presidential campaign is entirely driven by this sort of rhetoric, railing against just one group, holding ALL of the accountable for crimes committed by some who belong to same religion, then we are close to something really terrible in this land. Let’s hope its not the case.


5 posted on 08/18/2010 11:00:27 PM PDT by True_Kon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It kind of reads like a plea for ‘Net Neutrality’ before it’s ‘too late’. By that I mean the left has routinely suggested that FOX and Drudge were the only things standing in their way of lifting America to the Utopian plane. Now that bloggers are being more widely read and responded to - the left ‘has’ to claim that the right’s blogosphere is contaminating people and ‘making them vote against their best interests’ etc. Since they can’t pull Obama off the stage in time (nor Nancy nor Harry etc.) I believe they will be even more desperate in their attempts to silence bloggers etc. and this article seems to be saying ‘see how the right unfairly influences public discourse’?
I think it’s both whine and beg - ‘please make the right blogosphere STOP!’
I picture them sitting in their conclaves, mouths agape at the reality that their mouthpiece MSM is not the only voice out there anymore as November approaches. The MSM carried them to their current positions before -this is the first election without an MSM guarantee of containment.
If the lefties were smart (OH thank heavens they aren’t!) they would stop talking. Obama is his worst enemy but he just won’t stop talking and that is great for us; let the whole world see what he is so we don’t have to keep telling them ourselves.
That may well be the big ‘message’ that Dems take away from their experience playing at totalitarian politics -
‘next time - silence the dissenting blogosphere FIRST.’
I sometimes wonder how this whole thing would be playing out right now if there was no internet and the right was still contained by the MSM. I can’t even picture it very well because the difference would be so extreme.


6 posted on 08/18/2010 11:03:08 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Conservative bloggers Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have been writing about the dangers of Islam for years. If not for them, you would not have heard about the GZ mosque until after it was built. The MSM would report... nothing. Thank God for these courageous people.

Others sounding the alarm... Nonie Darwish, Walid Shoebat, Bridget Gabriel and Geert Wilders. Education is the key. The building of this GZ mosque has served only one good purpose... to finally wake up the American people to the danger that has infiltrated our country.

7 posted on 08/18/2010 11:12:06 PM PDT by BigFinn (STOP the 'Domination' mosque on Ground Zero.)
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To: Candor7
Boorstein is either a complete idiot, or she is spinning the damage to Obama.

She is a complete idiot, and is spinning. And is probably just jealous that posing in a bikini - as Pam Geller did - is not an option for her.

8 posted on 08/18/2010 11:22:20 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: True_Kon

I like the way u think but i disagree w/ some of your conclusions. OK we MUST get rid of the Central Bank to bring back the free market but I don’t think theres a conspiracy by bankers to start a new world order just enhance their power.


9 posted on 08/18/2010 11:29:39 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good on Geller and Spencer!

The reason the building of the 9/11 Mosque is not approved by the great majority of Americans has nothing to do with these bloggers however, they just helped put this in the public arena. Something the MSM would never do - no wonder they are becoming irrelevant.

I know some repubicans are saying we shouldn’t push this hard, we should concentrate on the economy. But the economy will improve over time, maybe as we approach 2012. Now Obama will always be seen as a muslim apologist with little connection with or feeling for the great majority of Americans he was elected to represent. I suspect this will hurt him considerably in the polls for as long as he is president.

No wonder the libs are spinning furiously in damage control.


10 posted on 08/18/2010 11:30:13 PM PDT by militanttoby
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That headline is a compliment, though the authors are clueless to that fact.


11 posted on 08/18/2010 11:36:44 PM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: citizenredstater9271

“We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”

David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.


12 posted on 08/18/2010 11:41:13 PM PDT by True_Kon
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To: True_Kon

Not so fast on making Newt president. According to Jihad Watch, Newt has dropped out of rally on Sep 11 @ Ground Zero...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/08/wapo-geller-spencer-gaining-influence.html#comments


13 posted on 08/18/2010 11:44:27 PM PDT by luckybogey
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To: citizenredstater9271

Here you can here the ACTUAL AUDIO of the same quote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxPYa5mVlYU&feature=related


14 posted on 08/18/2010 11:51:43 PM PDT by True_Kon
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To: True_Kon

I support Dr. Ron Paul for presiednt and I agree we need to end the FED and go back to gold and silver money but I’m still skeptical of the conspiracies.


15 posted on 08/18/2010 11:57:48 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271
Mr. Rockerfeller was addressing the elite publications and thanking them. His words. Not mine or people like me. He is pretending to be conspiring? Maybe. Then why does EVERY President and Candidate here and in UK forced to utter the phrase NEW WOLRD ORDER? They are only talking about trade laws? Prosperity for whole humanity?

Nah. Good works are done in SUNSHINE.

Not with promises of secrecy and descretion.

16 posted on 08/19/2010 12:01:50 AM PDT by True_Kon
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To: citizenredstater9271

Here is VIDEO of Rockerfeller asking Dick Cheney a question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg


17 posted on 08/19/2010 12:02:55 AM PDT by True_Kon
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To: cruise_missile

If someone could, please photoshop Pelosi and Reid into that picture.

Then make a template picture for people to add their democratic candidate of choice.


18 posted on 08/19/2010 12:05:42 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: True_Kon

“Newt leading this protest tell me he wants to be President. There is no uproar in media other than Scarborough and some left-wingers, no one is calling his stance bigoted or attacking him for being an extremist.”

I wonder if they actually listened to his speech at AEI? Somehow I doubt it.


19 posted on 08/19/2010 3:49:05 AM PDT by Valin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You gotta love these liberals. They can’t stop writing about this and the more they do, the farther they fall.

The mosque issue will not go away because it is a very bad idea. The damage it is causing the Left will not go away because it reminds everyone that it is liberals who don’t like America and refuse to admit there are boundaries and limits in this world.


20 posted on 08/19/2010 4:52:20 AM PDT by AdaGray
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