It's Time To Demand Islamic Reciprocity in 911 Mosque Debate

As proponents for 911 denier imam Rauf's mosque shift into a defensive mode, apparently caught off-guard by the strong public rejection of his pet project, so too shifts their argument.

Until now what we have heard coming out of Rauf's camp consists of platitudes - disingenuously offered for sure - stressing how the 13 story mega-mosque will be an agent of healing, of bringing two worlds in opposition together.

With that argument having been firmly rejected by a two to one majority in numerous polls the conversation now shifts to that of freedom of religion...

...what they want is to force a degree of religious freedom in New York and across this country [and by extension the West] nowhere obtainable anywhere in the Muslim world...

...we are talking about Saudi Arabia, and Syria, Egypt and every Muslim majority country because it isn't happenstance that these particular societies so severely restrict the religious rights of all non-Muslims. This happens because the dominant strain of Islam is supremely chauvinistic and bigoted regarding other faiths, this despite the fact that Muslim apologists are fond of giving only lip service to other "Abrahamic faiths" while ruthlessly suppressing them in every clime where they have the power to do so.

The fundamentalism of Islam demands total submission to it, everywhere that it has the political muscle to call the shots.

Yet in this country, the simple assertion that a Qur'an has been "desecrated," somewhere...anywhere, is dealt with as if it was a capital crime, an unbelievably injurious act of pure hate.

What is largely absent from the discussion regarding shady imam Rauf's grand plan is the inherent nature of the religion he is promoting and is practiced everywhere in the world. Please remember that in his understanding of Islam, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood are apparently not terrorist entities.

This brand of Islam is completely intolerant, misogynistic, expansionist and unapologetic.

Yet we are being told by the imam, CAIR's various thugs and the entire North American Hamas-friendly Muslim directorate [many of them non-native born, yes it does make a difference] that they will build a mosque at Ground Zero - for the sake of peace - [wink wink, nod, nod] despite the pain, strife and religious bigotry that it will undoubtedly foster...

...In countries and locales that aren't dominated by Islam they will insist on ridiculous legal constructions as a tool towards their real goal - the implementation of Shari'a, but when those societies fall under majority Muslim control, don't you dare expect reciprocity.

This is why Newt Gingrich's statement that there should be no consideration of a Ground Zero mosque until a Christian church or a synagogue is built next to the Kaaba is so instructive.

Islam is Islam and it's like no other religion, it will not broach a rival, ever. It is unreformed and remains stubbornly unenlightened as to the responsibilities of a major religion in the 21st century.

If imam Rauf is so concerned with religious freedom and acts of accommodation in this country, we suggest that he first concern himself with demonstrating his religion's claimed tolerance where Islam reigns supreme - Saudi Arabia - until then his alleged devotion to American constitutional principles rings as hollow as the hallways of the Saudi Ministry of Religious Affairs as they are closed off, slamming the doors to modernity.

They are using our own laws and our own culture of freedom to worm their way into our country and destroy us.

"...multiculturalism means that the worst attributes of Muslim culture -- the subjugation of women -- combine with the worst attributes of Western culture -- licence and self-gratification. Tattoed, pierced Pakistani skinhead gangs swaggering down the streets of Northern England are as much a product of multiculturalism as the turban-wearing Sikh Mountie in the vice-regal escort at Rideau Hall. Yet even in the face of the crudest assaults on its most cherished causes -- women's rights, gay rights -- the political class turns squeamishly away...

...As one is always obliged to explain when tiptoeing around this territory, I'm not a racist, only a culturist. I believe Western culture -- rule of law, universal suffrage, etc. -- is preferable to Arab culture: that's why there are millions of Muslims in Scandinavia, and four Scandinavians in Syria. Follow the traffic. I support immigration, but with assimilation. Without it, like a Hindu widow, we're slowly climbing on the funeral pyre of our lost empires. You see it in European foreign policy already: they're scared of their mysterious, swelling, unstoppable Muslim populations." -- Mark Steyn

"We Muslims know the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation."

Last week, a journalist who writes for the North Country Times, a small newspaper in Southern California, sent us an e-mail titled "Help." He couldn't understand why an Islamic Centre in an area where Adam Gadahn, Osama bin Laden's American spokesman came from, and that was home to three of the 911 terrorists, was looking to expand.

The man has a very valid point, which leads to the ongoing debate about building a Mosque at Ground Zero in New York. When we try to understand the reasoning behind building a mosque at the epicentre of the worst-ever attack on the U.S., we wonder why its proponents don't build a monument to those who died in the attack?

New York currently boasts at least 30 mosques, so it's not as if there is pressing need to find space for worshippers. The fact we Muslims know the idea behind the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel. The proposal has been made in bad faith and in Islamic parlance, such an act is referred to as "Fitna," meaning "mischief-making" that is clearly forbidden in the Koran.

The Koran commands Muslims to, "Be considerate when you debate with the People of the Book" -- i.e., Jews and Christians. Building an exclusive place of worship for Muslims at the place where Muslims killed thousands of New Yorkers is not being considerate or sensitive, it is undoubtedly an act of "fitna"

So what gives Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf of the "Cordoba Initiative" and his cohorts the misplaced idea that they will increase tolerance for Muslims by brazenly displaying their own intolerance in this case? Do they not understand that building a mosque at Ground Zero is equivalent to permitting a Serbian Orthodox church near the killing fields of Srebrenica where 8,000 Muslim men and boys were slaughtered?

There are many questions that we would like to ask. Questions about where the funding is coming from? If this mosque is being funded by Saudi sources, then it is an even bigger slap in the face of Americans, as nine of the jihadis in the Twin Tower calamity were Saudis.

If Rauf is serious about building bridges, then he could have dedicated space in this so-called community centre to a church and synagogue, but he did not. We passed on this message to him through a mutual Saudi friend, but received no answer. He could have proposed a memorial to the 9/11 dead with a denouncement of the doctrine of armed jihad, but he chose not to.

It's a repugnant thought that $100 million would be brought into the United States rather than be directed at dying and needy Muslims in Darfur or Pakistan.

Let's not forget that a mosque is an exclusive place of worship for Muslims and not an inviting community centre. Most Americans are wary of mosques due to the hard core rhetoric that is used in pulpits. And rightly so. As Muslims we are dismayed that our co-religionists have such little consideration for their fellow citizens and wish to rub salt in their wounds and pretend they are applying a balm to sooth the pain.

The Koran implores Muslims to speak the truth, even if it hurts the one who utters the truth. Today we speak the truth, knowing very well Muslims have forgotten this crucial injunction from Allah.

If this mosque does get built, it will forever be a lightning rod for those who have little room for Muslims or Islam in the U.S. We simply cannot understand why on Earth the traditional leadership of America's Muslims would not realize their folly and back out in an act of goodwill.

As for those teary-eyed, bleeding-heart liberals such as New York mayor Michael Bloomberg and much of the media, who are blind to the Islamist agenda in North America, we understand their goodwill.

Unfortunately for us, their stand is based on ignorance and guilt, and they will never in their lives have to face the tyranny of Islamism that targets, kills and maims Muslims worldwide, and is using liberalism itself to destroy liberal secular democratic societies from within.

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