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Obama to Call for Better Graduation Rates (60% of Americans to get college degrees)
New York Times ^ | August 9, 2010 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

Posted on 08/09/2010 5:20:49 AM PDT by reaganaut1

President Obama on Monday will renew his call for the United States to lead the world in college graduation rates by 2020, an ambitious goal that senior administration officials say will require 60 percent of all young Americans to possess a college degree, up from 40 percent today.

The United States gave up its spot as the world leader in college graduation rates about 10 years ago, as students in countries like South Korea, Canada and Russia began to surpass their American counterparts. Now the United States ranks 12th among 36 developed nations; a report by the College Board last month warned that the gap threatens to undermine American competitiveness.

Mr. Obama, who shares that view, used his State of the Union address in January to call for the United States to resume its spot as the world leader in graduation rates. He will travel to Austin, Texas, on Monday to reiterate his education plan in a speech at the University of Texas there.

“We’re flatlined, where other countries have passed us by,” Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Sunday, during a conference call with reporters to preview the president’s remarks. Mr. Duncan called the 2010 goal “the North Star for all our educational efforts.”

Mr. Obama’s trip to Texas will pair policy with politics; before delivering his education speech, he will headline a fundraiser for the Democratic National Committee in Austin. After the speech, he will make a quick trip to Dallas to raise money for Democratic Senate candidates.

And the speech itself will have a political edge; advisers to Mr. Obama say he will use it to remind Americans that, with just a few exceptions, Republicans voted overwhelmingly against legislation adopted by Congress earlier this year to revamp the student loan program

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bellcurve; college; education
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Trying to get 60% of Americans to graduate from college would be a fool's errand even if the country were 100% white, but as the Hispanic proportion of the population rises, it becomes even more absurd. Charles Murray has estimated that one needs an IQ of about 115 (about 1 standard deviation above average) to really study at the college level (studying calculus, for example, or writing coherent, documented, 20-page term papers). Not everyone is smart enough to attend college, and not everyone who is smart enough is motivated enough.

On the individual level, getting a college degree may or may not be worthwhile for some marginal students, because the job market is so credentialized. Many FR threads have debated who should attend college. But at a national level, sending everyone to college will NOT magically create lots of good new jobs unless it substantially improves the knowledge and skills of the workforce.

1 posted on 08/09/2010 5:20:54 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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Better to stand in the unemployment line with sheepskin in hand, than without. /s


2 posted on 08/09/2010 5:22:50 AM PDT by donozark (Not all heroes wear tights and a cape.)
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And they all can get a job in government after the private sector is no more.


3 posted on 08/09/2010 5:22:54 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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I sense a lowering of standards on the horizon.


4 posted on 08/09/2010 5:23:29 AM PDT by 4buttons
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Why not improve the literacy rates, then high school graduation rates first?


5 posted on 08/09/2010 5:24:13 AM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
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Even if that could happen, there won’t be any jobs for them with Obamas policies. We’ll just have the worlds smartest unemployed people.


6 posted on 08/09/2010 5:24:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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7 posted on 08/09/2010 5:26:16 AM PDT by petercooper (Ignorant Obama Voters: Happy Now?)
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If zero and his minions could get 60% of the los negroes to graduate from high school it would be a near miracle! That’s the first hill that the boy needs to climb....


8 posted on 08/09/2010 5:28:44 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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Years ago I made the comment that not everyone is suited for college. I happened to make it at a wedding or baby shower amongst a bunch of leftists (divorced/single middle aged women) and you should have seen the looks and heard the gasps of disbelief. BLASPHEMY!


9 posted on 08/09/2010 5:31:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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only happens when the immigrants are legal and high functioning, and the children of the low end of the normal curve are kept as a small portion of the populations

Our Elite do not see this as being in their interests.


10 posted on 08/09/2010 5:31:39 AM PDT by Chickensoup (I am absolutely done. I am a conservative libertarian.)
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He truly is trying to destroy America and or he is an idiot.

He just gets a thought.... i e.... everyone should wear gold watches go to college and so on...

How about JOBS TO HELP PAY MORTGAGES?

NOT the green weenie jobs reserved for your buds real jobs!

NEXT he will say everyone has to change all of their lightbulbs to energy efficient ones WAIT HE DID THAT!


11 posted on 08/09/2010 5:32:25 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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Hand out the diploomas with the cheese. Honkey crackers need not apply.


12 posted on 08/09/2010 5:33:14 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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...senior administration officials say will require 60 percent of all young Americans to possess a college degree...

Obama..."You don't want health insurance? Too bad, we REQUIRE you to buy it. Don't want a college degree? Too bad, we REQUIRE you go get one."

13 posted on 08/09/2010 5:33:24 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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1- Change the curricula to prepare the students for productive work and quit catering to the lowest common denominator.
2- Reintroduce the concept of discipline and consequences, to ensure a learning atmosphere in the classroom.
3- Allow school choice so the market place can identify where these concepts have been effectively implemented.
4- Tell the Teacher’s Unions to shut up and make these changes with the money they have. The consequences include firing the least qualified teachers.


14 posted on 08/09/2010 5:34:10 AM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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Oh, great idea - then even McDonalds will require a collage degree to flip burgers!


15 posted on 08/09/2010 5:34:11 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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As is, there are far too many people going to college. Perhaps it would be worthwhile for more to go if college taught them anything. But those coming out with a bachelor’s degree who can’t write or perform simple math should be driving truck or picking up garbage.


16 posted on 08/09/2010 5:34:40 AM PDT by skookum55 ("Why is the market going down? Because communism isn't bullish." Unknown trader, CNBC, July 2010.)
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To: Lion Den Dan

And don’t forget - those people will also be set on a path to be your Obamacare doctors, and “educated” at your expense. It’s a win/win!
/s


17 posted on 08/09/2010 5:36:09 AM PDT by GnuHere
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Too many people are going to college and getting useless degrees that do not prepare them for the job market. Many kids should get tech training at a 2 year institution instead of being pushed into College where all they do is pile up monster debt and waste their time.

The only reason Progressive Fascists want everyone to go to college is they need more time to try and brain wash the kids to believe their ridiculous Progressive political dogmas

18 posted on 08/09/2010 5:36:26 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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Just hand them out with food stamps and be done with it.


19 posted on 08/09/2010 5:37:35 AM PDT by Dem Guard (The + IRS = Theirs)
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The statistics show that the more “educated” someone is, ie, the more time they spend in an academic environment with “professors”, the more likely they are to abandon their religious faith.

Statists need people who worship only the state.


20 posted on 08/09/2010 5:39:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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