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FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (Illegal to grow your own food)
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Posted on 08/07/2010 6:47:50 PM PDT by Scythian

This bill was considered in committee which has recommended it be considered by the Senate as a whole. Although it has been placed on a calendar of business, the order in which legislation is considered and voted on is determined by the majority party leadership. Keep in mind that sometimes the text of one bill is incorporated into another bill, and in those cases the original bill, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhofda; congress; corruption; democrats; economy; farmers; fascism; food; government; liberalfascism; liberalsgonewild; liberalstupidity; obama; statesrights; taxes
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To: Black Agnes
I’m sure that’s the line the Kulaks took. How’d that work out for them?

The kulaks couldn't vote the Commies out in November.

And you’re wrong about their intent to control home gardening and canning.

Yeah, okay.

81 posted on 08/07/2010 9:02:00 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: little jeremiah

When they realize that we are monitoring their families they’ll behave.


82 posted on 08/07/2010 9:03:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch (America was founded by MARKSMEN, not Marxists.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

They won’t force you to buy crap. Or seeds.

If your crop is inadvertently cross pollinated (via wind or insects, try to control either, I dare you!) by your neighbors crop and your seeds (produce) contains patented material you will be in violation of the law if you replant those seeds (grown on your own property, with seeds from varieties that have been in your family for generations) next year.

Simply because somebody decided it was a really great idea to patent the genes in food crops.

And you, the farmer or home grower, will be forced to buy seeds (or pay the fee for the patented material in your own seeds) from the patent holder.

And yes, before you ask, I save most of my own seeds. Cheaper that way. I plant varieties for some things that have been in my family for over 100 years.


83 posted on 08/07/2010 9:04:05 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: TribalPrincess2U

AMEN to the Amen!!


84 posted on 08/07/2010 9:06:27 PM PDT by Senormechanico
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“The kulaks couldn’t vote the Commies out in November. “

Neither will we.

Oh, the placeholders might shift about a bit. But if this law is passed before the start of the next session it will NEVER be repealed. Never. The big agribusinesses have bought both sides of the aisle. Too many pubbies support this crap too. Their bank accounts are too well greased.

So, which is it. Is home canning going to be legal or not? ‘Not really illegal’ isn’t an answer.


85 posted on 08/07/2010 9:06:57 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Bhoy

The “Won” appointed former vice president of MONSANTO, Michael Taylor, the U.S. food safety CZAR!!!!(kinda like appointing a pervert to be the “Safe School Czar!!!!” Yeah! Like Kevin (fisting) Jennings!!)

Don’t know if the video “The Future of Food” is still available on the internet or not (they probably scrubbed it, like they did with the Monsanto video that was scaring the sh*t outta everyone), but they say you ought to watch it for your own health!

Monsanto is one scary company....

Why is it that Buffet and Gates are stockpiling heirloom seeds in the Arctic?


86 posted on 08/07/2010 9:09:42 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

No, I don’t think they’ll be able to stop EVERYONE.

The problem isn’t getting everyone to obey, all at once. I see you are NOT familiar with dictatorships (that much was obvious anyway).

There are many methods to accomplish controlling a populations food production. Besides the fact that a single company in the U.S. provides seed for nearly 90% of the crops, and blacklists farmers who do not obey them. An oppressive government can:

A) “Nationalize” the seed/food industry in a crisis, thereby limiting access to seed. (This thread is about the opening shots of that volley).
B) Intimidate people into not buying seed/growing in the first place.
C) Restrict water usage in areas that are not dry farmable.
D) Come in with Shotguns and confiscate what you have.
E) Arrest you when someone turns you in for selling a contraband item.
F) Genetically modify all commercial seed to be sterile, and bees/insects for a several mile radius can wipe out the fertile seeds over time.
G) Spray herbicides on potentially “dangerous” fields.
H) Kill those who are not overly thin, as the rationed populace should be. (The soviets used this tactic to find those hoarding food).
I) Judge the measure of fertilizers/pesticides/etc. bought, and find out, to some extent, that way.

The list goes on and on, and I don’t ever have to be as clever as some of the more sinister people pushing for a dictatorship and one world government. I see a bigger picture, but it’s been long prophesized. As one posted mentioned, those without the mark of the beast could neither buy, nor sell, and that will include food, as a loaf of bread will go for a days wages. It will come to pass. I pray we’ll all be prepared, with whatever that entails.


87 posted on 08/07/2010 9:10:13 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235

Total control has been attempted and occasionally put into tentative practice historically.

Never, though, did the powers that be in such a situation have the technological wherewithall to monitor each and every scrap of food production via GoogleEarth.

Everyone who thinks you can grow a few tomatoes in your backyard w/o anyone noticing? Ask those people in NY with the ‘unpermitted’ pools how that works out when the tax assessors get ahold of google earth...

In the end it’s still all about money (control thereof). If you’re eating your own (or your neighbors) produce you aren’t giving *them* they money they think they so richly deserve. See, your little tomato patch in the backyard costs them money. We can’t have that now, can we?


88 posted on 08/07/2010 9:12:06 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes; JDW11235
If your crop is inadvertently cross pollinated

JDW11235 thinks the government will plant the GMOs to surround your house. See post #61

89 posted on 08/07/2010 9:12:57 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Black Agnes
Is home canning going to be legal or not?

Yes, so you can stop wetting your pants.

90 posted on 08/07/2010 9:14:07 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Mortrey

Hey, I just wanted to ask if this movie is it. If so, it’s available on Hulu. I’m going to watch it, I think, is it worth the time? If so, I’ll start now.

“The Future of Food.”

http://www.hulu.com/watch/67878/the-future-of-food


91 posted on 08/07/2010 9:15:41 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: spodefly
I hereby swear before God and all the world, that if the day ever comes when an official from the government shows up at my house to tell me I cannot grow my own food I will kill them and every other son of bitch agent that shows up until they have killed me. I will not live in a world where Nancy Pelosi and the other worthless sacks of shit in government decide I cannot grow food on my own property.

Amen. I couldn't have said it any better myself.

92 posted on 08/07/2010 9:16:52 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Sneaking In is NOT Immigration!!!)
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To: Black Agnes

Don’t forget the illegal immigrants defecating in spincach fields spreading e-coli, that’s OK as long as the lawyers get to gore their ox.


93 posted on 08/07/2010 9:17:06 PM PDT by theymakemesick ( Filled with hatred for those that disagree, democrats are the most intolerant bigots on earth)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Whatever. I didn’t say government agents have to come and plant a field. You neigher can choose a GMO, or GMO’s may be the only thing available to them. Governments don’t have to control EVERY parcel of land, they just need to hold the important ones. You can believe whatever you want. Obviously you’re ignorant about just about everything that everyone is talk about on this thread. It’s frustrating becase you offer no information (Because you know NOTHING upon which to predicate an opinion), you just keep mouthing off. If you ever want help preparing for what’s ahead, feel free to ask, if not, buzz off.


94 posted on 08/07/2010 9:19:52 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You know squat about farming or seed saving.

They don’t have to ‘surround’ your home with the GMO pollen. Corn pollen travels up to 2 *miles* on the wind. Sometimes even further.

If any of your ‘neighbors’ within a 2 mile radius plant even a small field of the GMO patented corn your corn will be pollinated with the patented material and thus illegal to replant or sell under the regulations.

One field. 2 miles away.

How many people could that *one* field affect? Pretty much all of his neighbors up to a radius of 2 miles.

6 or 8 wuch fields in my county would invalidate any corn produced here.

It’s getting more and more difficult for the heirloom seed companies to sell heirloom corn seed that isn’t affected by GMO material. One of the most popular companies, Baker Creek, put a notice in their catalog last year that none (none!) of their seeds had been found to be free of GMO material. Even though they were produced using ‘seed saving’ techniques used for hundreds of years. And grown at least 2 miles from other corn crops.

That pesky wind thing. Turns out 2m might be a minimum for corn pollen in the right conditions.


95 posted on 08/07/2010 9:20:17 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Still think we’ll vote out the ‘commies’ in November and repeal this if it passes before the next session?


96 posted on 08/07/2010 9:23:38 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: JDW11235
Governments don’t have to control EVERY parcel of land, they just need to hold the important ones.

Is the government going to "stop the production of commercial seed that isn’t a GMO, and plant GMO’s near anyone who won’t submit/they can’t intimidate out of it" or not?

It’s frustrating becase you offer no information

I only posted part of the actual bill, the part that says farms and restaurants don't need to "permit inspection of his or her records".

You know, the part that says you can stop whining.

97 posted on 08/07/2010 9:26:17 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
If you think any politician is dumb enough to make growing your own food illegal, require everybody to buy health insurance you're too dumb to listen to reason.

Good one, Toddster. You've really nailed that point. LOL

98 posted on 08/07/2010 9:27:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Black Agnes

Still think if it passes it’ll outlaw growing your own food?


99 posted on 08/07/2010 9:27:49 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: spodefly

Well said! If this passes I bet many states will pass acts of nullification. There are not enough Federal agents to enforce such a law. I know they can make an example out of someone and try to scare the hell out of the rest, but if they go forward with this bill the feds may not be the only ones making examples.


100 posted on 08/07/2010 9:28:45 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk
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