Posted on 08/07/2010 6:47:50 PM PDT by Scythian
This bill was considered in committee which has recommended it be considered by the Senate as a whole. Although it has been placed on a calendar of business, the order in which legislation is considered and voted on is determined by the majority party leadership. Keep in mind that sometimes the text of one bill is incorporated into another bill, and in those cases the original bill, as it would appear here, would seem to be abandoned.
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The kulaks couldn't vote the Commies out in November.
And youre wrong about their intent to control home gardening and canning.
Yeah, okay.
When they realize that we are monitoring their families they’ll behave.
They won’t force you to buy crap. Or seeds.
If your crop is inadvertently cross pollinated (via wind or insects, try to control either, I dare you!) by your neighbors crop and your seeds (produce) contains patented material you will be in violation of the law if you replant those seeds (grown on your own property, with seeds from varieties that have been in your family for generations) next year.
Simply because somebody decided it was a really great idea to patent the genes in food crops.
And you, the farmer or home grower, will be forced to buy seeds (or pay the fee for the patented material in your own seeds) from the patent holder.
And yes, before you ask, I save most of my own seeds. Cheaper that way. I plant varieties for some things that have been in my family for over 100 years.
AMEN to the Amen!!
“The kulaks couldn’t vote the Commies out in November. “
Neither will we.
Oh, the placeholders might shift about a bit. But if this law is passed before the start of the next session it will NEVER be repealed. Never. The big agribusinesses have bought both sides of the aisle. Too many pubbies support this crap too. Their bank accounts are too well greased.
So, which is it. Is home canning going to be legal or not? ‘Not really illegal’ isn’t an answer.
The “Won” appointed former vice president of MONSANTO, Michael Taylor, the U.S. food safety CZAR!!!!(kinda like appointing a pervert to be the “Safe School Czar!!!!” Yeah! Like Kevin (fisting) Jennings!!)
Don’t know if the video “The Future of Food” is still available on the internet or not (they probably scrubbed it, like they did with the Monsanto video that was scaring the sh*t outta everyone), but they say you ought to watch it for your own health!
Monsanto is one scary company....
Why is it that Buffet and Gates are stockpiling heirloom seeds in the Arctic?
No, I don’t think they’ll be able to stop EVERYONE.
The problem isn’t getting everyone to obey, all at once. I see you are NOT familiar with dictatorships (that much was obvious anyway).
There are many methods to accomplish controlling a populations food production. Besides the fact that a single company in the U.S. provides seed for nearly 90% of the crops, and blacklists farmers who do not obey them. An oppressive government can:
A) “Nationalize” the seed/food industry in a crisis, thereby limiting access to seed. (This thread is about the opening shots of that volley).
B) Intimidate people into not buying seed/growing in the first place.
C) Restrict water usage in areas that are not dry farmable.
D) Come in with Shotguns and confiscate what you have.
E) Arrest you when someone turns you in for selling a contraband item.
F) Genetically modify all commercial seed to be sterile, and bees/insects for a several mile radius can wipe out the fertile seeds over time.
G) Spray herbicides on potentially “dangerous” fields.
H) Kill those who are not overly thin, as the rationed populace should be. (The soviets used this tactic to find those hoarding food).
I) Judge the measure of fertilizers/pesticides/etc. bought, and find out, to some extent, that way.
The list goes on and on, and I don’t ever have to be as clever as some of the more sinister people pushing for a dictatorship and one world government. I see a bigger picture, but it’s been long prophesized. As one posted mentioned, those without the mark of the beast could neither buy, nor sell, and that will include food, as a loaf of bread will go for a days wages. It will come to pass. I pray we’ll all be prepared, with whatever that entails.
Total control has been attempted and occasionally put into tentative practice historically.
Never, though, did the powers that be in such a situation have the technological wherewithall to monitor each and every scrap of food production via GoogleEarth.
Everyone who thinks you can grow a few tomatoes in your backyard w/o anyone noticing? Ask those people in NY with the ‘unpermitted’ pools how that works out when the tax assessors get ahold of google earth...
In the end it’s still all about money (control thereof). If you’re eating your own (or your neighbors) produce you aren’t giving *them* they money they think they so richly deserve. See, your little tomato patch in the backyard costs them money. We can’t have that now, can we?
JDW11235 thinks the government will plant the GMOs to surround your house. See post #61
Yes, so you can stop wetting your pants.
Hey, I just wanted to ask if this movie is it. If so, it’s available on Hulu. I’m going to watch it, I think, is it worth the time? If so, I’ll start now.
“The Future of Food.”
http://www.hulu.com/watch/67878/the-future-of-food
Amen. I couldn't have said it any better myself.
Don’t forget the illegal immigrants defecating in spincach fields spreading e-coli, that’s OK as long as the lawyers get to gore their ox.
Whatever. I didn’t say government agents have to come and plant a field. You neigher can choose a GMO, or GMO’s may be the only thing available to them. Governments don’t have to control EVERY parcel of land, they just need to hold the important ones. You can believe whatever you want. Obviously you’re ignorant about just about everything that everyone is talk about on this thread. It’s frustrating becase you offer no information (Because you know NOTHING upon which to predicate an opinion), you just keep mouthing off. If you ever want help preparing for what’s ahead, feel free to ask, if not, buzz off.
You know squat about farming or seed saving.
They don’t have to ‘surround’ your home with the GMO pollen. Corn pollen travels up to 2 *miles* on the wind. Sometimes even further.
If any of your ‘neighbors’ within a 2 mile radius plant even a small field of the GMO patented corn your corn will be pollinated with the patented material and thus illegal to replant or sell under the regulations.
One field. 2 miles away.
How many people could that *one* field affect? Pretty much all of his neighbors up to a radius of 2 miles.
6 or 8 wuch fields in my county would invalidate any corn produced here.
It’s getting more and more difficult for the heirloom seed companies to sell heirloom corn seed that isn’t affected by GMO material. One of the most popular companies, Baker Creek, put a notice in their catalog last year that none (none!) of their seeds had been found to be free of GMO material. Even though they were produced using ‘seed saving’ techniques used for hundreds of years. And grown at least 2 miles from other corn crops.
That pesky wind thing. Turns out 2m might be a minimum for corn pollen in the right conditions.
Still think we’ll vote out the ‘commies’ in November and repeal this if it passes before the next session?
Is the government going to "stop the production of commercial seed that isnt a GMO, and plant GMOs near anyone who wont submit/they cant intimidate out of it" or not?
Its frustrating becase you offer no information
I only posted part of the actual bill, the part that says farms and restaurants don't need to "permit inspection of his or her records".
You know, the part that says you can stop whining.
Good one, Toddster. You've really nailed that point. LOL
Still think if it passes it’ll outlaw growing your own food?
Well said! If this passes I bet many states will pass acts of nullification. There are not enough Federal agents to enforce such a law. I know they can make an example out of someone and try to scare the hell out of the rest, but if they go forward with this bill the feds may not be the only ones making examples.
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