Posted on 08/04/2010 7:24:35 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Documents released by the State Department in two separate Freedom of Information Act requests bolster evidence Barack Obama became a citizen of Indonesia when he moved to the Southeast Asian nation with his mother and stepfather in the late 1960s.
In a passport amendment submitted Aug. 13, 1968, Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, identified her son with an Indonesian surname and asked the State Department to drop him from her U.S. passport.
The transaction could have been part of an effort by Dunham to obtain Indonesian citizenship for her son. It took place before the State Department began requiring all citizens traveling abroad, regardless of age, to obtain their own passport.
Several court cases challenging Obama's presidential eligiblity have argued he gave up his U.S. citizenship in Indonesia and used an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan in the early 1980s. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship.
The amendment was submitted less than a year after Dunham joined her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, in Indonesia. It requested "Barack Obama II (Soebarkah)" be removed from her U.S. passport, No. 777788.
A letter from Lolo Soetoro to immigration officials in Hawaii pleading for an extension of his student visa, because anti-American sentiments in Indonesia could endanger his family, offers a possible reason for seeking Indonesian citizenship for Obama.
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LOL
bohica = “bend over, here it comes again”
Sounds like a disease.
It is and it's infected our country.
Look, I've even helped State smuggle typewriters into third-world countries to our own embassies ~ so they'd arrive with all the parts!
There was a time when learning to play the recorder was recommended to new State employees just in case they got stationed in posts with no electricity, running water, motor vehicles, or entertainment!
We know some of our so-calld USSC Justices believe foreign law can be used in deciding US cases but we can bet the same would conveniently forget that in this case. And do we want to go down that road anyway?
We know the definition of “natural born” as applied to Presidential eligibility is unsettled (indeed, it is the only reasonable explanation why the Present Occupant is fighting all the suits on standing and not the actual complaint). Someday the matter can and should be settled, but post 18th century foreign law should have no part IMHO.
America citizenship isn’t what it used to be.
In my house he has just one name and it starts with an “A”.
“It can be argued that a minor cannot foresake their citizenship.”
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Any crazy idea can be argued, but not successfully.
Mods are having a field day on this thread. They are too sensitive.
LOL!
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“It would also be argued that a mother cannot revoke the citizenship of her son.”
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That would certainly be a foolish argument to make, since it is done daily here in the US when parents appear in court with their minor children to become US citizens. They have to renounce foreign citizenship to become US cvitizens.
How many names does Obama have?
I’ve got a few names for him but it would be inappropriate for this forum.
Occam's Razor.
Actually, no. It is a perfectly sound legal argument.
A parent can not sign away RIGHTS of a minor child.
For example, all the releases that parents sign for children to go on rides, etc, are virtually worthless in court.
What does work is an indemnification agreement, but that is a completely different story than citizenship.
Citizen? That doesn't qualify one to be President. Must be "natural born..."
I have a friend who was born overseas of a Canadian father and an American mother. That made him automatically eligible for a green card, but he was required to be naturalized as a teenager.
Remember when he spoke at Notre Dame, I believe, he had the cross taken down.
Can we complain about the moderators canceling number 26 and 36. I don't see anything that requires elimination from my earlier copy of the thread.
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