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FoxNews: Praying Outside Clinic Gets Man Disorderly Conduct Charge
FoxNews.com ^ | August 2, 2010 | By Diane Macedo

Posted on 08/02/2010 8:30:55 AM PDT by topher

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Joseph Holland, a 25-year-old graduate student at Northwestern University, says he was standing still praying the rosary outside a Planned Parenthood facility in downtown Chicago July 3 when police arrested him for violating the city's new "Bubble Zone" ordinance.

The law, passed in October, states that a person cannot approach within 8 feet of another person without consent "for the purpose of passing a leaflet or handbill to, displaying a sign to, or engaging in oral protest, education or counseling" within 50 feet from any health care facility.

It also says a person cannot "by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction" intentionally interfere with any person entering or leaving any health care facility.

But Holland says he didn't approach or interfere with anyone.

"I was just standing by the building praying the rosary and one of the Planned Parenthood volunteers came up to me and started yelling at me that I needed to move 8 feet away, but the thing is I didn't actually approach anyone; I was just standing by the building and the building doesn't actually have a bubble," Holland told FoxNews.com.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: abortion; bubblezone; communism; cultureofdeath; democrats; freespeech; josephholland; liberalfascism; lifehate; moralabsolutes; plannedparenthood; prayer; prolife; religiousfreedom
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Apparently, Chicago has a Bubble Zone Ordinance.
1 posted on 08/02/2010 8:31:00 AM PDT by topher
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I guess should not surprise anyone that Chicago has decided to do away with Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion since it is the home of our Marxist/Communist/Masonic President Obama
2 posted on 08/02/2010 8:33:43 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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Needed response. 1000 (or more) people go to the same place and quietly pray.


3 posted on 08/02/2010 8:34:11 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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And:

Every Saturday morning have 1000 or more people show up

4 posted on 08/02/2010 8:35:20 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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The goodnews about this story is that it is Front Page right now on FoxNews.com website.

I guess getting a front row seat at White House briefings has changed things... I guess FoxNews has won the battle that it had earlier about fair and honest reporting.

The Liberal Left with their unfair and unbalanced reporting has lost credibility and listeners...

5 posted on 08/02/2010 8:37:51 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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Sounds like it was the Planned Parenthood volunteer that violated the bubble zone.


6 posted on 08/02/2010 8:40:29 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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Nahh.. you go to their home and pray outside their house.

And you do it to every worker at every clinic in the country.


7 posted on 08/02/2010 8:45:03 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Helter Skelter. The Revolution is Upon Us.)
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So the PP employeee created their own bubble by moving within 8feet of the protestor?


8 posted on 08/02/2010 8:53:38 AM PDT by rawhide
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The preachers better start standing up against this type of thing. If they don’t it won’t be long before Christianity is outlawed. Right now they are very quiet. Guess they’re afraid of losing their tax exempt status. Which means they believe the government is more powerful than the God they preach about.


9 posted on 08/02/2010 8:53:46 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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I was just standing by the building and the building doesn’t actually have a bubble,” Holland told FoxNews.com.

But it has a penumbra...so it’s said.


10 posted on 08/02/2010 8:59:28 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Our patients have the right to safely access the reproductive health care services they need to stay healthy kill babies," Planned Parenthood spokesperson Lara Philipps told FoxNews.com.

There, fixed it!

11 posted on 08/02/2010 9:00:29 AM PDT by rawhide
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Wouldn’t this “bubble zone” law violate the right to peaceful assembly?


12 posted on 08/02/2010 9:00:58 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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Land of the free....riiiiight.


13 posted on 08/02/2010 9:01:57 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Terry Mross

Folks, you need to pay special attention to the change in language by both 0bama and Hillary -

they’re now talking about “freedom of WORSHIP”, not “freedom of religion”.

That means you’re “free” to be Christian, as long as you confine it to the inside of a church.

First they change the language, then they change the law, then they punish those who violate the law.


14 posted on 08/02/2010 9:02:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: SumProVita

We The People must wake up.

http://vimeo.com/13722147


15 posted on 08/02/2010 9:12:58 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: Terry Mross
In Buffalo, a decade or two ago, Paul Schenck was arrested for offering a Bible to a woman entering an abortion clinic.

Paul Schenck won his Supreme Court decision on this 8-1 (there was actually a dissenting vote!)

Today, Paul Schenck is now Father Paul Schenck, as he was recently ordained a Roman Catholic priest.

He went from being Orthodox Jewish background to Evangelical Christian to Roman Catholic. He has a PhD and is fluent in Aramaic and Greek (so he can read the original contents of the Bible directly).

16 posted on 08/02/2010 10:06:39 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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“the city’s new “Bubble Zone” ordinance.”

A “bubble zone” ordinance has been ruled unconstitutional many times before.

There is no “bubble zone” around US army recruiting offices or induction centers (we learned that in the 1960s).

There is no “bubble zone” around political conventions (although the parties always try to have a ban on demonstrations near their conventions).

If abortion centers can have a “bubble zone”, then the constitution has just had its wings clipped.


17 posted on 08/02/2010 10:11:32 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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The Paul Schenck case was:

Schenck v. Pro-Choice Network of Western New York.

He is now a Roman Catholic priest in Pennsylvania.

18 posted on 08/02/2010 10:16:57 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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“Sounds like it was the Planned Parenthood volunteer that violated the bubble zone.”

If you read the statute, the PP gnomes are forbidden from counseling, protesting etc by approaching within 8 feet of Christians praying. Of course, the law would never be applied that way.


19 posted on 08/02/2010 10:19:53 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: CondorFlight
This has gone to the US Supreme Court before in:

Schenck v. Pro-Choice Network of Western New York

The dastardly thing that Paul Schenck did was offer a Bible to a woman going into an abortion clinic. This was considered obstructing the entrance to the Abortion Clinc.

Paul has an interesting story about the one Supreme Court Justice who sided against him. Paul has an office in DC, and was driving one night. He was lost and was going to ask a driver for help.

He rolled down his window and was going to ask help of the driver next him.

Then he recognized the driver as the dissenting Justice Breyer.

He decided not to ask for help from this driver...

20 posted on 08/02/2010 10:22:50 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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