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Mass. Senate approves national popular vote bill
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Posted on 07/21/2010 11:57:50 AM PDT by jessduntno

The Massachusetts Senate has passed a bill that would give the state’s Electoral College votes to the presidential candidate who wins the national popular vote.

The bill approved by the Senate 28-10 last week is part of a nationwide effort to secure the agreement of enough states so the winner of the national popular vote would be guaranteed to win the presidency.

The bill will not go into effect until states possessing a majority of Electoral College votes pass similar legislation. Maryland, Illinois, New Jersey, Hawaii and Washington state have approved the measure.

The House passed its version of the legislation in June.

The bill will now be sent to Gov. Deval Patrick.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; US: Illinois; US: Maryland; US: Massachusetts; US: New Jersey; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; cultureofcorruption; democratscandals; electoralcollege; electoralvote; electoralvotes; getoverit; gorelostalready; hawaii; howtostealanelection; illinois; maryland; massachusetts; nationalpopularvote; newjersey; powergrab; tyranny; washington
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
RE :"Whoring for attention and benefits is my guess. If the national candidate can concentrate on the 270 electoral vote states who've locked in, they can ignore the 269 electoral votes who've cut themselves out. And first come, first served. "

At first glance I thought that maybe MD gave up it's right to vote Democrat every election. But then I noticed the loophole that keeps the law from being enacted. If they really believe this crap, they should get rid of the loophole now and let another state pick their president in 2012. ( I would complain about that too LOL)

61 posted on 07/21/2010 12:28:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: jessduntno

guess that’s it then.


62 posted on 07/21/2010 12:29:30 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hitler Was Their Fate and their Fate Could Not Be Stayed. Von Braustitch.)
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To: Man50D

“This maneuver will give the voting power to the socialist laden urban areas at the expense of the Conservative rural areas.”

Exactly...we will be controlled by the dazzling urbanites...


63 posted on 07/21/2010 12:30:08 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Conservatism is the antidote to tyranny...its principles are the founding principles." - M. Levin)
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To: Fantasywriter

Sounds like an unconstitutional interstate compact to me. But let the experts hash that one out.


64 posted on 07/21/2010 12:30:27 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: a fool in paradise

“The national populist vote that Al Gore and Rats love to brag about from 2000 differed by 0.51% between the two candidates (half of one percent) which would have necessitated a NATIONWIDE PRECINCT BY PRECINCT RECOUNT. Dumb idea, New Englanders.”

They forgot about Kennedy already, I guess...


65 posted on 07/21/2010 12:31:38 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Conservatism is the antidote to tyranny...its principles are the founding principles." - M. Levin)
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To: sickoflibs

Seems to me that the Sherman Antitrust Act could be used to beat this back. We can be sure that Eric Holder is planning to file charges right this moment. /s


66 posted on 07/21/2010 12:32:14 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus CONSERVATIVE is a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: Vigilanteman
"Won't it be poetic justice if the electors of Massachusetts are forced to vote for Sarah Palin because she wins nationally, but Obozo wins in Massachusetts?"

Your scenario gets even better! If Mass has to give those votes to Palin, yet those electoral votes would have allowed a Democrat to win the electoral college and win the presidency!

67 posted on 07/21/2010 12:36:39 PM PDT by avacado
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To: avacado

The Democrats are banking on more people being added to the welfare rolls and thus more voters for democrats.


68 posted on 07/21/2010 12:38:58 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: KarlInOhio

Good analysis.


69 posted on 07/21/2010 12:41:17 PM PDT by matt1234 (The only crisis 0bama can manage is one he intentionally created.)
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To: jessduntno

unless they pass this first, amenesty for illegals will not have as big an infulence on the election, see if you just add 12 million new votes to states like CA and MA that are already mostly democrat it will not change the election results, but make it about the popular vote and add 12 million new undocumented democrats and now you can really steal some elections...


70 posted on 07/21/2010 12:41:25 PM PDT by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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To: jessduntno

it’ll never get passed the Supreme Court


71 posted on 07/21/2010 12:43:20 PM PDT by screaming eagle2 (D)
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To: jessduntno

it’ll never get passed the Supreme Court


72 posted on 07/21/2010 12:43:22 PM PDT by screaming eagle2 (D)
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To: jessduntno
You got that right. This state law that purports to change the express terms of the US Constitution is facially unconstitutional on several different grounds. The most basic one is that it seeks to override the decisions of the people of a state in favor of the decisions of people from other states.

It is hard to imagine a more fundamental affront to the whole political/constitutional history of the United States than this provision.

John / Billybob

PS: Request for help. Please give me a link to the instruction page on html for posting on FR. I need to find out, once again, how to post a link to a FR thread as part of my signatures on FR posts. — John

73 posted on 07/21/2010 12:44:27 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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To: jessduntno

so if they had done this 30 years ago their electoral votes would have gone to Reagan?


74 posted on 07/21/2010 12:45:59 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: KarlInOhio
What you state, an interstate compact not approved by Congress, is the second reason why this is flatly unconstitutional.

John / Billybob

75 posted on 07/21/2010 12:50:11 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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To: a fool in paradise
So why vote for President in D-Mass anyway then? So goes the national vote, so goes Massachusetts.

Because the national popular vote might actually be close, and thus your GOP vote in Massachusetts might actually count, whereas the majority Masshole vote will be for the Donk. Then, when the Republican wins the popular vote, and the networks color Massachusetts red, the libtards will have shot themselves in the foot.

76 posted on 07/21/2010 12:54:33 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They did go to Reagan. TWICE!


77 posted on 07/21/2010 12:55:10 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: jessduntno

Doesn’t different states have different criteria for determining voter eligibility? And would that mean that MA would have to discount all votes made by people in other states but that would be ineligible in MA in the “popular vote”?

Regadless, what a cluster-f**k. Like someone already mentioned, you would have recounts in every voting district in every state in the US, every election. And even with that, you’d have a more error-prone and fraud-vulnerable system than today.


78 posted on 07/21/2010 12:55:27 PM PDT by SwedishConservative
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To: SwedishConservative

“Regadless, what a cluster-f**k.”

Yep...creating as much chaos as possible...they are just f***ing with us now because they can...civil war can not be far behind...


79 posted on 07/21/2010 1:01:55 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Conservatism is the antidote to tyranny...its principles are the founding principles." - M. Levin)
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To: jessduntno

What “they” are missing is that no state knows what the popular vote is until ALL absentee ballots are counted.... not just those counted in a so-called close election. Until every single absentee ballot is counted, there is no way to determine who actually wins the popular vote. Thus the liberal cry of “Bush stole the election” because ALGORE won the popular vote is complete BS.


80 posted on 07/21/2010 1:02:36 PM PDT by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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