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'Outing' illegal immigrants: Utah grapples with 'listgate'
Yahoo! ^ | 7/20/2010 | Daniel B. Wood

Posted on 07/20/2010 5:09:12 AM PDT by BJClinton

A 29-page list of 1,300 people accused of being in Utah and the US illegally was mailed anonymously to media outlets and law enforcement agencies last week. It included Latino names, addresses, phone numbers, Social Security numbers, and private health information such as the due dates of babies.

Two state employees – identified within the Utah Department of Workforce Services and already placed on administrative leave – could face criminal charges in connection with the list’s release. And state Attorney General Mark Shurtleff says his office is still investigating further leaks.

Intentionally releasing a private record in Utah is a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail and $1,000 fine. If the record was stolen, the crime could be prosecuted as a felony and carry a penalty of up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine.

Beyond illegality, immigrants rights and other Hispanic groups say the release of the list is just morally wrong.

Mr. Shurtleff likened the list's release to Nazism. “You replace 'Mexican,' you replace 'illegal alien' … with 'Jew,' and use that same kind of language – that was spread throughout Nazi hit lists in Germany,” he told Utah's KSL-TV on Friday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; illegalimmigrant
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Much more at the link.

Sad that this is what we've been forced to do to defend our nation.

1 posted on 07/20/2010 5:09:14 AM PDT by BJClinton
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To: BJClinton

These people need to be called out, in plain English, on what they are advocating: totally open borders, no control of who is in our country, the transfer of wealth from Americans to non-Americans, abolishing the Rule of Law and, as a result, chaos.


2 posted on 07/20/2010 5:14:26 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: BJClinton

They need to claim whistleblower protection.


3 posted on 07/20/2010 5:16:50 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: BJClinton
Mr. Shurtleff likened the list's release to Nazism. “You replace 'Mexican,' you replace 'illegal alien' … with 'Jew,'

So these people are being rounded up at this moment?

They are having their possessions stolen by the government then?

We have already killed most of them?

These Nazi references are getting old and diminishes what the Nazi's really were.

4 posted on 07/20/2010 5:18:20 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: BJClinton

If two persons using existing state records and data can find 1300 illegal immigrants in short order, what is the state and fed excuse of not being able to enforce immigration laws????? These two state employees should get a good lawyer and prepare to make the trial into a forum on illegal immigration and how easy it is to enforce it and why the gov refuses to do so with the lame excuse we cannot find them. It also puts the feds in a public bind. They now have names of 1300 illegal immigrants, they better be deported by the time of the trial, otherwise they will need to explain to the public on what is the hold up. Illegal access to info to report a crime is a crime. Then the release of the Secret Pentagon Papers by Ellsworth should be a crime and according to the liberals it was not. Utah and the feds should proceed with caution on prosecution because this will be more than trial, it involves political PR and the conservatives need to be ready to pounce.


5 posted on 07/20/2010 5:18:51 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

Y’know, the nazis breathed air and ate food...thus anyone who disagrees with the powers that be are somewhat nazi.


6 posted on 07/20/2010 5:23:22 AM PDT by BJClinton ("Worse" technically is "change".)
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7 posted on 07/20/2010 5:28:01 AM PDT by bcsco (First there was Slick Willie. Now there's "Oil Slick" Barry...)
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To: agere_contra
They need to claim whistleblower protection

When the Progressives are running the show, the only whistle-blowers who get protection are those who blow the whistle against privately owned industry and businesses.

8 posted on 07/20/2010 5:28:31 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper

or republicans.


9 posted on 07/20/2010 5:33:56 AM PDT by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: BJClinton
So how is reporting a crime a crime? Listing social security numbers that are stolen is a felony? Get serious. The people of Utah owe these two a reward not prosecution.

Oh yeah, and why is it the prosecutors can go after these two and not the 1300 lawbreakers?

10 posted on 07/20/2010 5:35:01 AM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: La Lydia
Two state employees – identified within the Utah Department of Workforce Services and already placed on administrative leave – could face criminal charges in connection with the list’s release.
The state calls them criminals. I call them heroes.
11 posted on 07/20/2010 5:38:50 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: BJClinton
Question: Has anyone tried to determine whether the list was accurate?
12 posted on 07/20/2010 5:44:02 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism and Patriotism cannot coexist.)
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To: BJClinton

What is the punishment for distributing government assistance to known illegal aliens? Inquiring minds want to know.


13 posted on 07/20/2010 5:47:25 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: BJClinton
It seems everybody is fighting for non-citizens these days. When will someone fight for us?

Tucson bishop: Illegal immigrants should learn English, ‘get in the back of the line’



Don't be fooled by the headline.

His statement to the House could be right out of
La Raza or any other open borders crowd.

14 posted on 07/20/2010 5:51:19 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: SunkenCiv; onyx; AuntB; rabscuttle385; TigersEye

Intriguing:

“A 29-page list of 1,300 people accused of being in Utah and the US illegally was mailed anonymously to media outlets and law enforcement agencies last week. It included Latino names, addresses, phone numbers, Social Security numbers, and private health information such as the due dates of babies.”


15 posted on 07/20/2010 5:53:55 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (It takes courage to stay on Monster Ping. [Link in profile.])
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To: Cowboy Bob

I’d bet a good slice [1/4th my chips] and offer double odds that every blasted detail is accurate.


16 posted on 07/20/2010 5:56:07 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (It takes courage to stay on Monster Ping. [Link in profile.])
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To: McGavin999; BuckeyeTexan

I’m no laywer, but as I understand it ...

Truth is not always admissable in a court of law. It should be, but illegally obtained information is often blocked from consideration. Otherwise, snoops would be encouraged to expose too much about sleazeballs in power.


17 posted on 07/20/2010 5:58:48 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (It takes courage to stay on Monster Ping. [Link in profile.])
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To: I Buried My Guns

Yes, it is bitterly ironic that the heroes are faced with criminal violations for identifying..........criminals.

That pretty much sums up the insanity of our nation.


18 posted on 07/20/2010 6:00:19 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: BJClinton

19 posted on 07/20/2010 6:01:01 AM PDT by februus
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To: gussiefinknottle
Yes, the attorney general who likened those revealing the criminals to Nazis, is a Republican.

I wonder if his name translated into English means Mike Nifong?

20 posted on 07/20/2010 6:11:22 AM PDT by MBB1984
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