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Obama Wins Unlikely Allies in Immigration
New York Times ^ | July 18, 2010 | Laurie Goodstein

Posted on 07/18/2010 7:29:37 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule

At a time when the prospects for immigration overhaul seem most dim, supporters have unleashed a secret weapon: a group of influential evangelical Christian leaders.

Normally on the opposite side of political issues backed by the Obama White House, these leaders are aligning with the president to support an overhaul that would include some path to legalization for illegal immigrants already here. They are preaching from pulpits, conducting conference calls with pastors and testifying in Washington — as they did last Wednesday.

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Of course Hybels would be one of them.
1 posted on 07/18/2010 7:29:41 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

All aboard! This train is heading for free showers.


2 posted on 07/18/2010 7:31:07 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Richard Land of SBC. Will keep Obamacare through eternity.


3 posted on 07/18/2010 7:33:02 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Sorry. Jesus Christ would not advocate breaking the law.


4 posted on 07/18/2010 7:34:27 PM PDT by Reddy
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It’s hard to believe Christians want to reward illegal behavior.


5 posted on 07/18/2010 7:35:07 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: Sybeck1

It’s hard to believe Christians want to reward illegal behavior.


6 posted on 07/18/2010 7:35:23 PM PDT by imskylark
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I was disappointed to see Land was on here. I’ve seen him on various cable shows and was impressed with him.


7 posted on 07/18/2010 7:36:11 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (The important thing to remember is that Obama reads newspapers and isn't that whats important?)
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If it's about souls my own church have missionaries right now in Central and South America.
8 posted on 07/18/2010 7:38:59 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Theft is a sin, regardless of how cute and/or desperate the circumstances of the perpetrators...


9 posted on 07/18/2010 7:40:55 PM PDT by sourcery (Let's not use the word 'terrorist.' Instead, let's use 'Islamic Supremacist')
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Those illegal hispanics put cash into the collection hat like nobodys business.

These "evangelists" want the cash, and the marxists want the votes.

I guess it never occured to the morons at the RNC to advocate for a reversal of Kennedys "immigration Act of 1965", which put white immigrants from europe at a disadvantage.

10 posted on 07/18/2010 7:41:14 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

who are these christian leaders? There have always been democrat christian leaders. So did these individuals vote democrat? NYT trying to mask their affiliation ?


11 posted on 07/18/2010 7:42:21 PM PDT by 4rcane
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All aboard! This train is heading for free showers.

I get your drift. Insipid fools, all of them.
12 posted on 07/18/2010 7:42:40 PM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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“Sorry. Jesus Christ would not advocate breaking the law.”

I thought he was arrested, tried and put to death for violating laws he felt were wrong, unjust, etc.


13 posted on 07/18/2010 7:44:14 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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He was blameless before both God & man - despite the betrayal, lies, and politics.


14 posted on 07/18/2010 7:47:39 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Statement: "Obama Wins Unlikely Allies in Immigration"

Response: Our society is so badly divided that the on going Third World conquest is almost certain to be effectuated.

15 posted on 07/18/2010 7:49:11 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Just filling the pews and the COLLECTION PLATE! It’s all about money, as usual. It’s always about the money.


16 posted on 07/18/2010 7:50:41 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ich bin ein illegal alien! - Barry)
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He was arrested, tried and put to death because He proclaimed Himself as the Messiah. Was that a lie?

He never did advocate breaking the law.


17 posted on 07/18/2010 7:51:23 PM PDT by Reddy
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He was arrested, tried and put to death because He proclaimed Himself as the Messiah. Was that a lie?

He never did advocate breaking the law.


18 posted on 07/18/2010 7:51:32 PM PDT by Reddy
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Correction, He was arrested, tried and put to death because OTHERS proclaimed Him to be the Messiah, and He did not repudiate it. Was that a lie?

He never did advocate breaking the law.


19 posted on 07/18/2010 7:53:10 PM PDT by Reddy
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No, he was arrested and tried because He spoke against the religious leaders. They hated Him so they trumped up charges about Him, couldn’t get anybody to have compatible testimony so they asked Him directly if He is God and He said He is. So they charged Him with blasphemy.

But they weren’t able to execute Him for a religious crime so they had to take Him to the Romans. They accused Him of not paying His taxes, subverting the nation, inciting the crowds, and claiming to be a king. (The original Tea Partier, apparently. lol) Pilate knew it was sour grapes on the part of the Jewish leadership so he was going to let Jesus go.

But then the Jewish leadership basically said they would report Pilate to Tiberius (who had just a short time before told Pilate that if he had one more dust-up with the Jews he was history). They said Pilate would be no “friend of Caesar” if he let Jesus go free, since Jesus was supposedly a terrorist enemy of Rome. There was actually an actual group called “Friends of Caesar” which had special rings; the only way out of that gorup was by mandatory suicide.

So basically it was trumped-up charges which Pilate didn’t buy, so the Jews threatened Pilate with extinction if he didn’t give them what they wanted - and that worked.

Sounds exactly like Washington DC.

The real reason He died, of course, is so He could pay the just sentence for all the sin that’s ever been committed on earth, or ever will be committed. That way God can forgive us without ignoring the need for justice.


20 posted on 07/18/2010 7:55:53 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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