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BP's Deepwater Oil Spill - Starting the Testing Program - and Open Thread 2 (July 15, 2010)
The Oil Drum ^ | July 15, 2010 - 6:58pm | Heading Out

Posted on 07/15/2010 5:24:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is a second thread for this post. Please see http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6731 for previous comments.

Update Thursday Afternoon, 4:00 pm : BP has at least temporarily capped the well, and oil has stopped flowing into the Gulf. BP will now be carefully monitoring the pressure levels. Admiral Allen reports:

"We're encouraged by this development, but this isn't over. Over the next several hours we will continue to collect data and work with the federal science team to analyze this information and perform additional seismic mapping runs in the hopes of gaining a better understanding on the condition of the well bore and options for temporary shut in of the well during a hurricane. It remains likely that we will return to the containment process using this new stacking cap connected to the risers to attempt to collect up to 80,000 barrels of oil per day until the relief well is completed."

Original post
When things are going well down at the Deepwater oil spill site in the Gulf there are press conferences, data flows in a timely manner and the public can understand what is going on. When there are problems, these get delayed.

(Excerpt) Read more at theoildrum.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bp; deephorz; deepwaterhorizon; energy; offshore; oil; oilspill
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1 posted on 07/15/2010 5:24:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The start of the Obama as our Savior program will be in full swing soon.
2 posted on 07/15/2010 5:27:47 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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From the Oil Drum:

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FintanDunne on July 15, 2010 - 7:22pm

Your report confirmed by the Wash Post:

Tom Hunter, retired director of the Sandia National Laboratories and a member of the federal government's scientific team, witnessed the test inside BP's war room in Houston and told The Washington Post that the pressure rose to about 6700 psi and appeared to be likely to level out "closer to 7000." He said scientists will labor to understand the meaning of such pressures. One possibility, he said, is that the well has simply depleted itself to a certain degree over the course of nearly three months.

"It's just premature to tell. We just don't know whether something is leaking or not," Hunter said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/15/AR2010071500642.html?hpid=topnews


3 posted on 07/15/2010 5:28:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If one understands 2 words, one understands these sleights of hand: venturi principle.


4 posted on 07/15/2010 5:31:20 PM PDT by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: at bay
Over the next several hours we will continue to collect data and work with the federal science team.....

We're screwed...

5 posted on 07/15/2010 5:34:22 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
didn't see any leak on the "spill cam."
6 posted on 07/15/2010 5:44:35 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Overthrow the regime.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort

“We’re screwed... “

Yep. They will find some excuse to open the valves back up. It hasn’t served their purposes yet.


7 posted on 07/15/2010 5:44:55 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 507)
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To: at bay; Sub-Driver; BOBTHENAILER; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; onyx; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; ...
From the Oil Drum:

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raygonzo on July 15, 2010 - 8:25pm

From what I can tell -- with a 6700 - 7000 PSI reading -- the result is inconclusive. If the readings are 8000-9000 - then they keep it shut in as long as possible. 4000-6000 they stop testing and start collecting. So what's next - some thoughts:

* They run the 48 hour test
* Re-connect to the choke and kill lines (not the top)and capture "up to 80,000 boe/d"
* Run Seismic to check the seabed
* Restart RW1
* When RW1 ready - disconnect capture - and close valves as necessary to inject mud/cement

Of course this is jmho....

8 posted on 07/15/2010 5:46:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Additional info from second hand trancsription of what General Thad Allen stated. From rainyday on the OilDrum.

ADMIRAL ALLEN: Not necessarily, what we're going to do is we're going to test for 48 hours, and every six hours, we're going to evaluate all of the information we have available. At the end of 48 hours, we're going to take down the system, go back to containment, or production, as you say, and then we're going to get a new seismic reading off the floor that will tell us as a result of that testing at high pressure for 48 hours, was there a change in the well bore, or did we have oil leak into the formation and form a pocket just to be a precursor for breaching the ocean floor? Is there methane gas coming up, which would be a precursor as well.

Once we are satisfied that there are no indications that we've compromised the integrity of the wellbore, we create an irreversible position of oil leaving the well bore, we can go back then and put the—put the system under pressure again. Then once we're—once we're convinced, we've got no pressure in the well bore, and it can withstand the pressure after another seismic run, after that 48 hours, we can certainly consider shutting in the well, that's always a possibility, and of course, we would like to do that.

9 posted on 07/15/2010 6:00:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

So because the pressure has built up a little low they are going to run a second pressure test ? This is kind of what I was afraid of. The Well bore is partially compromised. Now what do they do ? Hopefully the seismic runs will tell them exactly why the pressure is not building.


10 posted on 07/15/2010 6:04:05 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

It sounds like the original plan is subject to change.


11 posted on 07/15/2010 6:15:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It sounds like the original plan is subject to change.

It changes every flipping hour ! The MSM can not even keep up with it on a day to day basis. Only the Blogs and Free Republic have the speed to keep up.

12 posted on 07/15/2010 6:18:53 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
The Well bore is partially compromised.

We don't know that as a fact.

13 posted on 07/15/2010 6:19:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: justa-hairyape
I would like to see the formation go into production...but with a new well bore.

We are going to be short oil with the damn moratorium.

Now we will hear from those with the tin wrapped around the head.

14 posted on 07/15/2010 6:22:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: justa-hairyape
Jerry Brown was on Kudlow and he is going to solve the unemployment problem out here with green jobs....

As AG he made sure that the referendum to repeal the Global Warming law out here had CO2 labeled as a pollutant.

15 posted on 07/15/2010 6:25:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From what I read on the Oil Drum, they could convert the second Relief Well into a Production well. It has a better casing run then the Exploratory Macondo Well. The first Relief Well is probably just too close to the Wild Well bore now. If Relief Well 1 cements the Macondo Well, then the second RW one could be a Production Well, but we need to first determine how they lost the original Exploratory Well. That will take congressional hearings, lawsuits and quite a few years. Time to open up ANWAR and do shallow water wells. Can you just imagine how Chavez would handle a Blow Out like this ? Oil Leak ? What Oil Leak ? Arrest that man.
16 posted on 07/15/2010 6:34:36 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Chavez would have just had them seal the well. And if the early testing here by BP is any indication, sealing the well while you drilled a new relief well might well have worked.

It was too much of a risk for BP and the Obama administration — but sometimes when you take risks you get rewarded.


17 posted on 07/15/2010 6:45:35 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We don't know that as a fact.

Pressure is going somewhere. Looks like they came up 1,000 to 2,000 psi short. They got just enough to keep the pressure test going, but not enough to tell them they can kill the well. Thus, the need to run a second test to determine just where the leakage is going. Thad sort of mentions a second test in the above second hand quotes.

18 posted on 07/15/2010 6:48:19 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; justa-hairyape
I went to bed at 7PM EST to attempt sleep. Must get up at 3:30AM.. Came down due to mind racing. Coors Extra Gold Lager on computer table (very cold).
From thread #3:

"Tom Hunter, retired director of the Sandia National Laboratories and a member of the federal government's scientific team, witnessed the test inside BP's war room in Houston and told The Washington Post that the pressure rose to about 6700 psi and appeared to be likely to level out "closer to 7000." He said scientists will labor to understand the meaning of such pressures. One possibility, he said, is that the well has simply depleted itself to a certain degree over the course of nearly three months."

And it might be added. The original pressure readings may have been in error. Things seemed to be going a bit funny those last few days. What happens if enough methane has been bleed in this particular pocket that would realistically reduce the cavity pressure. As pressure drops one must also take into account the slight lowering of local temperatures within the cavity in question. Complicated calculations I am not equiped to have to perform.
In closing. There could be a few reasonable explainations as to why the pressure readings have dropped that do not indicate a breached well bore into the local cavity. Perhaps within the next two days we shall see other things posted that could make sense in the determination of the actual conditions at this site.

19 posted on 07/15/2010 7:41:49 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: justa-hairyape; Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is madness. I finished my cold one. I am going to give sleep another shot. Couple hours away from having to drag my ass back to work. Do have a great upcoming day.


20 posted on 07/15/2010 7:51:33 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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