Posted on 07/13/2010 10:24:53 AM PDT by Stayfrosty
BELFAST, Northern Ireland (AP) — Northern Ireland leaders condemned Irish nationalist rioters Tuesday who wounded 82 police officers during two nights of street clashes sparked by the province's annual parades by the British Protestant majority.
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Being Irish Catholic I guess I shouldn’t comment here but I know Ireland will never be peacful as long as she’s occupied.
I agree
Being an Irisch Convert (Cath to Pot) I mostly agree with you except to say there was a window some years back when things were moving in the right direction.
If the Orange order would just grown up and knock off the marches through Catholic neighborhoods things might have kept moving that way.
Yes, if the protestant majority find their land occupied by the Irish army they will peacefully go about their business and forget all about how they are not and do not want to be Irish.
I hate it when Roman Catholics start acting like
Muslims.
The Protestants invaded - like Muslims would.
The Protestants suppressed traditional Christianity - like Muslims would.
And now the Protestants march through Catholic neighborhoods to remind the Catholics of their second class status - just like the Muslims would.
Major dittoes, chris.
Lets not go there *please*
throughout history Catholics and Protestants have done really crappy things to each other... And if you want to talk about ‘traditional this or that take it to a theology thread’.
The left like to use Ireland as an example of Christian Terrorism but in truth of fact anyone with half a brain knows the only reason religion plays into it is because England is not Catholic.
Even if England and Ireland were both Catholic/Prot there would still be blood in the streets because England would have invaded and beaten Ireland would have stayed there and would have had partisans marching every year to commemorate the defeat...
This is not a religious struggle, this one is geo political.
Didn’t George Mitchell solve this? Which is why he was chosen to solve the Arab-Israel issue? /sarc
If you go out looking for trouble, you usually get it. I am just sorry 82 police officers were hurt (rather than 82 Orangemen).
On my third trip to Ireland in 1999, I visited the Museum of History in Dublin. Unfortunately, I visisted it the day after I finished reading "1918" and as I strolled through the wing dedicated to the "Troubles" my blood just boiled.
Oh my gosh, Christians marching through
Christian neighborhoods, oh the humanity.
“Suppressed traditional Christianity”
commonly called ‘being shown a more perfect way’.
Besides all the RC’s would have to do is move
50 km south, eh?
You wrote:
“Lets not go there *please*”
I’ll go where I like, thanks.
“throughout history Catholics and Protestants have done really crappy things to each other... And if you want to talk about ‘traditional this or that take it to a theology thread’.”
Take your complaining elsewhere. My points were valid. Disagree all you like, but don’t tell me to not state my opinions. This is FreeRepublic not N3WBI3’s Dictatorship.
“The left like to use Ireland as an example of Christian Terrorism but in truth of fact anyone with half a brain knows the only reason religion plays into it is because England is not Catholic.”
Actually the left rarely uses Ireland as an example of “Christian Terrorism”. They instead use Ireland as an example of British oppression of a native people (and not without merit either). The left rarely examines the theological differences between Catholics and Protestants and instead focuses - and I think correctly - on the historical nature of the feud.
“Even if England and Ireland were both Catholic/Prot there would still be blood in the streets because England would have invaded and beaten Ireland would have stayed there and would have had partisans marching every year to commemorate the defeat...”
Nope. The reason for the invasion, occupation, repression, rebellion, and the marches is ultimately religion. Where are the British marches in Scotland? Wales? There are none. Why not? Because, even though they are different peoples, they share the same faith and ultimately bent their knees to the same Protestant crown, Protestant law and Protestant army. Ireland is different than Scotland and Wales. They are all Celts. They all live in rather poor lands. They all fought the English for centuries and centuries. So, why are the Irish different? Because they stayed Catholic.
“This is not a religious struggle, this one is geo political.”
It started in religious turmoil.
And just like Muslims, IRA terrorists bomb pubs, engage in random executions and in a country which is over 90% Roman Catholic that is never enough and need religious purity just like Muslims. There have been Protestants in Northern Ireland for over 400 years and the reason the English invaded was to protect their countryymen from random murder and extermination. Please folks, history is not a U2 song. Irish history is muddy with invasion and settlement of foreign powerrs, like America there really is no native Irish nationality. From the Franks, to the Romans and the Norse, Ireland is mix of different ethnic groups merged into one. To say that Roman Catholic Irishman have some Biblical right to run their entire island is silly. >
You wrote:
“Oh my gosh, Christians marching through
Christian neighborhoods, oh the humanity.”
People celebrating your oppression. How would you like that in your own land and on your own street.
“commonly called ‘being shown a more perfect way’.”
Clearly not.
“Besides all the RC’s would have to do is move
50 km south, eh?”
All the Protestant could just go a little further to the land of their ancestors. There’s no reason for the native people - who oppressed no one - to go anywhere.
Don’t you find it unusual that the Protestant minority is the Republic encounter the same type of discrimination that Catholics do in the north?
Bitter Clinger Forever: Lots of truth there.
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