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To: N3WBI3

You wrote:

“Lets not go there *please*”

I’ll go where I like, thanks.

“throughout history Catholics and Protestants have done really crappy things to each other... And if you want to talk about ‘traditional this or that take it to a theology thread’.”

Take your complaining elsewhere. My points were valid. Disagree all you like, but don’t tell me to not state my opinions. This is FreeRepublic not N3WBI3’s Dictatorship.

“The left like to use Ireland as an example of Christian Terrorism but in truth of fact anyone with half a brain knows the only reason religion plays into it is because England is not Catholic.”

Actually the left rarely uses Ireland as an example of “Christian Terrorism”. They instead use Ireland as an example of British oppression of a native people (and not without merit either). The left rarely examines the theological differences between Catholics and Protestants and instead focuses - and I think correctly - on the historical nature of the feud.

“Even if England and Ireland were both Catholic/Prot there would still be blood in the streets because England would have invaded and beaten Ireland would have stayed there and would have had partisans marching every year to commemorate the defeat...”

Nope. The reason for the invasion, occupation, repression, rebellion, and the marches is ultimately religion. Where are the British marches in Scotland? Wales? There are none. Why not? Because, even though they are different peoples, they share the same faith and ultimately bent their knees to the same Protestant crown, Protestant law and Protestant army. Ireland is different than Scotland and Wales. They are all Celts. They all live in rather poor lands. They all fought the English for centuries and centuries. So, why are the Irish different? Because they stayed Catholic.

“This is not a religious struggle, this one is geo political.”

It started in religious turmoil.


15 posted on 07/13/2010 10:52:37 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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To: vladimir998

“I’ll go where I like, thanks.”

Well, whtats what I get for asking nicely..

“Take your complaining elsewhere. My points were valid.”

Your points were selective and the conclusions obtuse and childlike.... For every ‘Prtos are bad to Catholics I can find Catholics being bad to Prots... To bring it up here displays a very limited view of the whole thing.

“Actually the left rarely uses Ireland as an example of “Christian Terrorism””

Really? Are you that uninformed or do you just want to drag out the argument?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

The left does what they always do, take a single situation and warp it around to be an example of whatever great ‘evil’ is currently spinning around their empty head... Kind of like what you’re doing.

“Nope. The reason for the invasion, occupation, repression, rebellion, and the marches is ultimately religion.”

Hmm so when Then catholic Englan invaded the Catholic france were they trying to convert them to.... Catholics

England wanted land, and in Ireland they had a weak neighbor with no bordering nations. Please don’t state your opinion as if it were a fact..

When England first assaulted Ireland (1100) both nations were Catholic and England did it with the full authority of a Papal Bull. From then on England always had an eye on Ireland no matter what church the nation fought under.

“It started in religious turmoil.”

It started 900 years ago when both peoples were Catholic...


25 posted on 07/13/2010 11:21:10 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: vladimir998

Let me get this straight.....you think there are no Protestant marches in Scotland?.

Dear me, have you ever been here?. I suggest you do, and in the W of Scotland in the summer, youll see plenty of them!.

And a fair few Catholic or Irish Republican marches too.


73 posted on 07/13/2010 2:57:17 PM PDT by the scotsman
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