“I’ll go where I like, thanks.”
Well, whtats what I get for asking nicely..
“Take your complaining elsewhere. My points were valid.”
Your points were selective and the conclusions obtuse and childlike.... For every ‘Prtos are bad to Catholics I can find Catholics being bad to Prots... To bring it up here displays a very limited view of the whole thing.
“Actually the left rarely uses Ireland as an example of “Christian Terrorism””
Really? Are you that uninformed or do you just want to drag out the argument?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
The left does what they always do, take a single situation and warp it around to be an example of whatever great ‘evil’ is currently spinning around their empty head... Kind of like what you’re doing.
“Nope. The reason for the invasion, occupation, repression, rebellion, and the marches is ultimately religion.”
Hmm so when Then catholic Englan invaded the Catholic france were they trying to convert them to.... Catholics
England wanted land, and in Ireland they had a weak neighbor with no bordering nations. Please don’t state your opinion as if it were a fact..
When England first assaulted Ireland (1100) both nations were Catholic and England did it with the full authority of a Papal Bull. From then on England always had an eye on Ireland no matter what church the nation fought under.
“It started in religious turmoil.”
It started 900 years ago when both peoples were Catholic...
You wrote:
“Well, whtats what I get for asking nicely..”
Your request was simply improper.
“Your points were selective and the conclusions obtuse and childlike.... For every ‘Prtos are bad to Catholics I can find Catholics being bad to Prots...”
Not in Ireland you can’t.
“To bring it up here displays a very limited view of the whole thing.”
No, actually I just go to the heart of the matter.
“Really? Are you that uninformed or do you just want to drag out the argument?”
Neither. I said “rarely” - and I was right. Wikipedia is not the “left”. It is merely one website and just about anyone can post there just like FR.
“The left does what they always do, take a single situation and warp it around to be an example of whatever great ‘evil’ is currently spinning around their empty head... Kind of like what you’re doing.”
I am not warping anything. You are. Suddenly the left is wikipedia.
“Hmm so when Then catholic Englan invaded the Catholic france were they trying to convert them to.... Catholics”
No. Then again there was no Protestant English invasion of France, no Protestant occupation, no Protestant marches, etc.
“England wanted land, and in Ireland they had a weak neighbor with no bordering nations. Please don’t state your opinion as if it were a fact..”
What I stated was fact.
“When England first assaulted Ireland (1100) both nations were Catholic and England did it with the full authority of a Papal Bull. From then on England always had an eye on Ireland no matter what church the nation fought under.”
That is largely irrelevant to the present situation. The Dublin pale is not Belfast.
“It started 900 years ago when both peoples were Catholic...”
No, actually it didn’t. The current troubles really only started with the invasion of the North. What happened in teh South 400 years earlier was essentially imaterial. This can be seen in the fact that the Normans became Irish lords in the Dublin pale and even often learned Irish and shared the same faith as their neighbors. None of that can be said of the Scots who came to the North in the 16th and 17th centuries.
It started well before that, although you wont get “vlad the impaler” to ever admit to it. Irish raiding of mainland Britain was a major nuisance from Roman times right up to the Norman Conquest.