[vladimir998]

The Protestants invaded - like Muslims would.

The Protestants suppressed traditional Christianity - like Muslims would.

And now the Protestants march through Catholic neighborhoods to remind the Catholics of their second class status - just like the Muslims would.

[N3WBI3]

Lets not go there *please*

throughout history Catholics and Protestants have done really crappy things to each other... And if you want to talk about ‘traditional this or that take it to a theology thread’.

The left like to use Ireland as an example of Christian Terrorism but in truth of fact anyone with half a brain knows the only reason religion plays into it is because England is not Catholic.

Even if England and Ireland were both Catholic/Prot there would still be blood in the streets because England would have invaded and beaten Ireland would have stayed there and would have had partisans marching every year to commemorate the defeat...

This is not a religious struggle, this one is geo political.

[misharu]

OUCH, vlad!! This battle has been ongoing for hundreds of years and until the people, Catholic AND Protestant, get sick and tired of it, then it will never stop.

On my third trip to Ireland in 1999, I visited the Museum of History in Dublin. Unfortunately, I visisted it the day after I finished reading "1918" and as I strolled through the wing dedicated to the "Troubles" my blood just boiled.

[Doulos1]

Oh my gosh, Christians marching through
Christian neighborhoods, oh the humanity.

“Suppressed traditional Christianity”
commonly called ‘being shown a more perfect way’.

Besides all the RC’s would have to do is move
50 km south, eh?

[pburgh01]

The Protestants invaded - like Muslims would. The Protestants suppressed traditional Christianity - like Muslims would. And now the Protestants march through Catholic neighborhoods to remind the Catholics of their second class status - just like the Muslims would.

And just like Muslims, IRA terrorists bomb pubs, engage in random executions and in a country which is over 90% Roman Catholic that is never enough and need religious purity just like Muslims. There have been Protestants in Northern Ireland for over 400 years and the reason the English invaded was to protect their countryymen from random murder and extermination. Please folks, history is not a U2 song. Irish history is muddy with invasion and settlement of foreign powerrs, like America there really is no native Irish nationality. From the Franks, to the Romans and the Norse, Ireland is mix of different ethnic groups merged into one. To say that Roman Catholic Irishman have some Biblical right to run their entire island is silly. >

[goodwithagun]

You forgot one vlad: The Protestants involved cover their faces, just like Muslims do. This may sound very simplistic, but I think the best way to determine who is right in a war like this is to look at who is willing to show their faces. The Irish Catholics never, that I have seen, covered their faces.

[the scotsman]

1-—The Catholic Irish(Gaels/Celts) themselves were immigrants and invaders, stealers of ancient land who had invaded Ireland and annihilated the original population.

2-—Some old notes on Ireland I have that may be of interest:

a-—’Historian Brendan O’ Buachalla has stated that in the 17th and 18th centuries,there was extensive intermingling and intermarriage between the new Scots settlers and the ‘native’ Irish,so that by the 19th century,there existed in Ulster several population groups,apart from many individuals scattered here,partly of Irish descent,partly of Scottish descent and Irish in language and belonged to one of the Protestant faiths’

Ian Adamson ‘The Identity of Ulster’ (1982) page 15

b—’The fact that many native Irish became Protestants is well illustrated for example by the Hearth Money Rolls for the Presbyterian parishes of Stranorlar and Leck in Donegal for the year 1665,as well as the by the presence of old Cruthinic names such as Rooney,Lowry,MacCartan and MacGuinness in the records of the Episcopalian Diocese of Dromore in South and West Down.Representatives of other well-known Gaelic families abound.Murphys,Maguires,Kellys,Lennons,Reillys,Doghertys and many others are quite numerous.Historian Brendan Adamas has shown that quote “a large part of the native Irish became absorbed in areas such as the North Down into the various Protestant faiths” ‘

Adamson The Ulster People(1991) page 60

c—’Neither must it be assumed that all the Scottish emigrants to Ulster in the Plantation were Protestant.For some were Scottish and English Catholics.Thus a letter from the Bishop of Derry to the Lord Earl of Abercorn in 1692 says that “Sir George Hamilton since he got part of the Popery there,has brought over priests and Jesuits from Scotland”.Historian A Perceval-Maxwell has shown that within just a generation one of the most sucessful parts of the ‘Protestant’ Plantation was in fact led by Roman Catholics’

Adamson(1991)—page 60

‘There was much intermarriage,with or without the benefit of the clergy than convential history makes allowance for. Many planters became Catholic and many natives became Protestant.

It is a gross and emotional oversimplification to see the Ulster Plantation in terms of ruthless Protestants seizing land and chasing the Catholics into the bogs and the hills.

In fact,history and recent archaeology shows us that in fact a very substantial proportion of the original population was not disturbed at all’
ATQ Stewart: ‘The Narrow Ground-Studies of Ulster History’(1986)