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What You Can't Say About Islamism
WSJ ^ | JULY 10, 2010 | PAUL BERMAN

Posted on 07/10/2010 7:14:22 AM PDT by nuconvert

In our present Age of the Zipped Lip, you are supposed to avoid making any of the following inconvenient observations about the history and doctrines of the Islamist movement:

You are not supposed to observe that Islamism is a modern, instead of an ancient, political tendency, which arose in a spirit of fraternal harmony with the fascists of Europe in the 1930s and '40s.

You are not supposed to point out that Nazi inspirations have visibly taken root among present-day Islamists, notably in regard to the demonic nature of Jewish conspiracies and the virtues of genocide.

And you are not supposed to mention that, by inducing a variety of journalists and intellectuals to maintain a discreet and respectful silence on these awkward matters, the Islamist preachers and ideologues have succeeded in imposing on the rest of us their own categories of analysis.

Or so I have argued in my recent book, "The Flight of the Intellectuals." But am I right? I glance with pleasure at some harsh reviews, convinced that here, in the worst of them, is my best confirmation.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: intellectuals; iran; islam; islamism; islamist; liberals; msm; muslims; taqiyya
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1 posted on 07/10/2010 7:14:24 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

> You are not supposed to point out that Nazi inspirations
> have visibly taken root among present-day Islamists,
> notably in regard to the demonic nature of Jewish
> conspiracies and the virtues of genocide.

I submit that it was likely the other way around. The Nazis derived many of their anti-Semitic narratives from the bloody savage MoHamHead and his spawn.


2 posted on 07/10/2010 7:17:38 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: nuconvert

Here is a link that allows you to read the story without subscribing to the WSJ.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704862404575351354230485696.html


3 posted on 07/10/2010 7:20:52 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Westbrook

Islam is essentially an Arab superiority cult; Mohammed the bandit, whose main military strategy was utter ruthlessness, coupled with deception, invented his cult to justify his attacks and make it easier to maintain control over the subject people.

But everything in Islam revolves around Arab power, whether or not the non-Arab populations that have been Islamicized know this or understand it. Heck, even in their clergy, precedence is given to persons descended from Mohammed (who, thus, are at least part Arab), who are allowed to wear a black turban and are the really important folks.


4 posted on 07/10/2010 7:27:27 AM PDT by livius
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To: Westbrook
When the Germans occupied Yugoslavia, the Nazis played off the Serbs, the Croats and the Muslims against one another. When Himmler was told of the Muslim belief that dying in the defense of the faith insured a place in Paradise , his comment was “well, if you must have a religion, that will do as well as any other.” Given that twice in history, Islam has nearly overrun Europe, the Muslim and Nazi leadership were kindred spirits.
5 posted on 07/10/2010 7:28:44 AM PDT by JayVee (Joseph)
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To: La Lydia
The link doesn't work. You can get the whole article by copying the title and putting it into the SEARCH area of your browzer such as Google. Click "Search" then click on the WSJ article. The whole article will come up and can be read in its entirety.
6 posted on 07/10/2010 7:28:53 AM PDT by Col. Bob (To give in is to commit national suicide)
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To: Col. Bob

You’re right. What’s with that? The way I got the link was doing what you said.


7 posted on 07/10/2010 7:35:36 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: nuconvert

You are not supposed to know that the country name IRAN translates to Aryan! Shades of Adolph not Allah!


8 posted on 07/10/2010 7:35:45 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: nuconvert

Islam is a seditious belief system that should be outlawed.


9 posted on 07/10/2010 7:36:13 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: nuconvert

Well, it’s true that Hitler had close ties with some of the Muslim clerics of the Middle East. France and England had moved into that area earlier, and beginning with Kaiser Wilhelm the Germans tried to play colonial catch-up.

But the disgusting and evil aspects of Muslim behavior can easily be traced back to Mohammed himself. It’s really not a case of modern theorists corrupting a formerly nice religion. Islam has always been evil. Mohammed was a murderer, a slave taker, a pederast, and a general all-around scum. And he is supposed to be the model for all the Mohammedans who have followed him.

It needs to be said that slavery gradually disappeared in the West under Christian infuence. It came back when European explorers went out and encountered it in the world again, mostly conducted by Muslims. Muslims, of course, had long been enslaving any Europeans they could get their hands on by raiding throughout the Mediterranean.

Is “Islamism” an aberration? No, regretably it’s just what Mohammed ordered and his followers gladly did. Rape, kill, enslave, and bully the women.


10 posted on 07/10/2010 7:39:02 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nuconvert
EFF THAT!

I YELL IT ALL OUT EVERY TIME I GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO!

Its the way to fight fascism, using the light of day ,and ridicule of their attempts to control a free people through an imposed political correctness.

11 posted on 07/10/2010 7:39:39 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: JayVee

“Given that twice in history, Islam has nearly overrun Europe...”

....that’s a good point and I think that deep down inside Old Europe knows this...that’s why at first they were content to let Miloslovich(sp?)play the role of Horatio-at-the-bridge...that way they hoped he would stop the Muslims in the Balkans and they wouldn’t have to get their hands dirty...but sooner or later what’s left of European Christendom will have to make a stand...it’s either that or end up living under Sharia law...same with this country.


12 posted on 07/10/2010 7:43:59 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Col. Bob

That works...thanks FRiend


13 posted on 07/10/2010 7:44:58 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: nuconvert
The Path of Islamization
14 posted on 07/10/2010 7:50:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: nuconvert
This is from Why Obama is a cultural Muslim

--The notion of two states, in which Jews and Palestinians are living side by side in mutual coexistence, is an illusion. If the Palestinians abandoned their guns, there would be peace. If the Israelis abandoned their guns, there would be genocide.

--The root cause of the violence in the Middle East has nothing to do with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. This is a distraction, a convenient excuse consistently used by Arab tyrants to cover up the real disease afflicting the region: radical Islam. From its inception, Islamic civilization has been at war with its neighbors.

--The Muslim faith has spread throughout centuries by the sword and violent jihad. It is why Christians and Jews were slaughtered and expelled from Arab lands during the Middle Ages. It is why the Ottoman Turks invaded and conquered Spain, Portugal, the Balkans and parts of France and Italy, even reaching the gates of Vienna.

15 posted on 07/10/2010 7:51:45 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: livius

Yep, Mo_hamm knew the only way he could unite a fighting force was to borrow and steal ideas from religions of the world in a general lie allowing the “follower” or should I say deceived to derive a heavenly vision of superiority. Unlike in the Christian principles of becoming a loving soul seeking God through the forgiveness of an all loving God in Christ. Thus the followers can accept the brutality of the perverted Mo_hamm and not even question its worth.
Because its for the glory of a fake god, they fashion after their own sins.


16 posted on 07/10/2010 7:57:39 AM PDT by aeonspromise
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To: nuconvert
You can not say Obama is helping spread Islam in the US
You can not say a Mosque at ground zero is insensitive to American people.
You can not say having Muslims in our military is a risk.
You can not say war on terror
17 posted on 07/10/2010 8:04:43 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
"It is why the Ottoman Turks invaded and conquered Spain, Portugal, the Balkans and parts of France and Italy, even reaching the gates of Vienna. "

Say what you will about Vlad the Impaler, he knew how to treat the Ottomans.

18 posted on 07/10/2010 8:07:39 AM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: nuconvert

Islam is the most destructive and most evil force on Earth today.

It has been destructive and evil since it was conceived in the image of its founder.

It will NOT change.

Islam’s intent for The West was clearly demonstrated to us on September 11, 2001.

If it is not eliminated, it will eliminate US.

What more need be said?


19 posted on 07/10/2010 8:25:27 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: thethirddegree
Here's the truth about Islam:

The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims (Andrew Bostom)

and

The Suicide of Reason: Radical Islam's Threat to the West (Lee Harris)

Islam is a serial murderer of entire cultures and peoples. This is what is has done throughout its entire history. Those whom it does not destroy, it enslaves and impoverishes.

Contrary to PC belief, Islam IS the enemy of Western civilization. Islam must be destroyed, root and branch.

20 posted on 07/10/2010 8:48:59 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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