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Democratic senator's lead shrinks in California: poll
Reuters ^ | 07/08/10

Posted on 07/08/2010 9:30:08 AM PDT by MissesBush

(Reuters) - Democratic Senator Barbara Boxer's edge over Republican challenger Carly Fiorina has dwindled to 3 points as she seeks re-election in November, with more Californians now holding an unfavorable view of the three-term senator, a poll released on Thursday showed.

Boxer, who once held a 30-point lead over Fiorina, the former CEO of Hewlett Packard and a political novice, is now ahead by a margin of only 47 percent to 44 percent, the Field Poll found.

One of President Barack Obama's staunchest allies who has become a powerful liberal voice in the Senate since she was first elected in 1992, Boxer is facing her toughest challenge yet, as a wave of anti-incumbent sentiment sweeps the nation.

California, normally a reliably Democratic state suffering from double-digit unemployment and a budget deficit running into tens of billions of dollars, is considered a potential bellwether in the coming congressional elections.

The Field Poll found that since January more Californians have become disgruntled with Boxer, with 52 percent of likely voters holding an unfavorable view of her, compared with just 41 percent who regard her favorably.

Boxer's ratings have dropped to some of the lowest levels of her 18-year career in the Senate, with only 42 percent of registered voters approving of her job performance and 43 percent disapproving.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; 2010polls; boxer; ca2010; capoll; fieldpoll; fiorina
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To: DoughtyOne

Would not your time be better spent campaigning for Boxer, or maybe working some OT so you can send some more $ to her.

Your hatred of anyone who is not the second coming is telling.

Go back to DU.


81 posted on 07/08/2010 11:17:56 AM PDT by TJC
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To: brownsfan
What horse? What water?

Ok, I get it now. You’ve got a huge axe to grind with McCain, (and evidently you don't, for what that's worth) so you are going to prattle on with semi-coherency. Perhaps you even enjoy just irritating others here, I don’t know, and don’t want to know.

Yawn...

I looked at that site when you first posted it, even though it wasn’t to me. It’s barely readable, but I do see where whoever is behind the site, (you?), cites that McCain’s PAC supports Fiorina. Pretty damning stuff, I guess. By the way, whoever put that site together didn’t know enough to put a title into the html.

A lot of other people were able to understand it.  I'm sorry it proved too challenging for you.

The website I linked to is well done, readable, with testimony from people who worked for Fiorina. They also suffered when she tanked the stock 60% from $52 to around $20 a share. The HP crowd mentions the offshoring and loss of about 15k jobs in Fiorina’s list of “accomplishments”.

How nice...

I’d still vote Fiorina over Boxer, but I think it’s important to know what you’re getting. The site is worth a look:

I don't fault you for providing that site link.  I'm sure others will find some reasons there to support Fiorina.  I'm not going to find any reason to support someone who thought enough of someone who could spend his life doing what McCain did, to back him as stridently as she did.

http://www.carly-fiorina.com/

http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html


82 posted on 07/08/2010 11:18:27 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: TJC

“Yes we know Fiorina is not the second coming, a requirement for some in our party for their vote.”

You have me wrong. I’m not a strict ideologue. I agree with Reagan’s quote about someone who agrees 80% of the time is not 20% your enemy.

I’m a technology worker and observer. I watched the devastation that Fiorina brought to HP from afar. Just because Fiorina is just slightly better than Boxer doesn’t make Fiorina good.

Have you considered that accepting whatever politician carries the banner of your party is how we got to this mess? A situation where of the 535 members of Congress, there are probably less than 35 of them that are worthy of holding their jobs.


83 posted on 07/08/2010 11:20:04 AM PDT by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Is that the same state where the owner of this forum resides? Well, yes it is.

Is that the same California where Free Republic resides? Well, yes it is.

Is it the same California that donates more than any other state to support this web site? Well, yes it is.

Perhaps you’ve stumbled across the wrong web site.”

Believe it or not, there is a world outside of Free Republic.


84 posted on 07/08/2010 11:20:19 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: brownsfan

You have only two choices.


85 posted on 07/08/2010 11:26:36 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: Sans-Culotte

The point being, there are Conservatives in California, but as long as big name RINOs refuse to back them, and lame brain Republicans in-state continue to vote for more RINOs this state will not turn around.

Do you realize that sound Conservative principles are rarely pushed in-state?

When they are, the people pushing them who have very little money to spend, still come fairly close to winning.

With party support, they could win.


86 posted on 07/08/2010 11:27:06 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“A lot of other people were able to understand it. I’m sorry it proved too challenging for you.”

Clearly I understood it, I picked out the fragment of information that was pertinent to the thread. I just found the layout of the page to be horrible. In addition, when there are programmatic ommissions on a site, the site’s amateurish nature undermines it’s message.

You think and respond like a liberal. You hammer away at your one point... McCain is the source of all evil, to the exclusion of all else. The site I posted has nothing flattering about Fiorina, but you wouldn’t know that because you’re too busy trying to build your “website”.

Go ahead, continue on your mission to do whatever it is you’re trying to do. You’ve clearly displayed that your input is suspect at best, and more likely useless.


87 posted on 07/08/2010 11:27:57 AM PDT by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: TJC

Let’s see, you don’t mind someone who donated time and money to John McCain being the party standard bearer. And yet, John McCain doing this http://www.hotr.us/data/mccainagain.html reveals that all too often he has been Boxer’s fellow traveler.

So in reaction, you refer to me as Boxer’s best friend.

Wow, decrying actions like Boxer’s make me her best friend.

Thanks for explaining this to me.


88 posted on 07/08/2010 11:31:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: MissesBush
Don't worry...

Boxer is the Queen of the "Thursday before the Tuesday" attack. She will have something very nasty that she will hold back until the very last minute. That's her SOP.

-PJ

89 posted on 07/08/2010 11:31:34 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: bert

“You have only two choices.”

Actually, the people of CA have that choice, I’m in Ohio. But, it is the sad reality. Fiorina is clearly the better choice. Just as Bernie Madoff would be a better choice than Charles Manson.

My point is, if Fiorina is elected, she will require close scrutiny, and most likely will be a one term Senator.


90 posted on 07/08/2010 11:31:44 AM PDT by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: DoughtyOne

So, you’d rather have the pure 100% marxist re-elected then, rather than take the 20% conservative votes Fiorina will give.

You, and people like you, don’t seem to understand the liberal states such as CA. A Scott Brown or Carly Fiorina is their idea of a conservative, and probably the best we can hope for from those states until the tide turns in their mindsets.

So, stay home, and teach the RINOs another lesson, just like many did in 2008 - which gave us a communist in the WH. Now, that’s what I call destroying us from within.


91 posted on 07/08/2010 11:32:37 AM PDT by Catsrus (Have)
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To: brownsfan

I would disagree with the 35. There are more than that.
I will support the one that is the most in line with my beliefs.
In primaries it is always the most conservative.

I am aware of what Fiorina did and do not like it. That is why I supported DeVore. But he lost and contrary to what the troll on this sight says, Boxer is a socialist dictator by nature JUST LIKE HITLER and STALIN.

And no what got us to this mess is conservative states like North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Indiana, some southern states, some Midwestern states, ect. voting for some of the most liberal rats we have in our senate. They do this against their strong conservative nature because the rats ‘bring home the bacon’ or they are too stupid to see them for what they are, even after voting for years with a 10% conservative rating.

And we in our wisdom worry about some worthless RINO from the second most liberal state in the union.


92 posted on 07/08/2010 11:33:20 AM PDT by TJC (V)
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To: billhilly

And believe it or not, there is Conservatism inside that outside world, and even within California. Why is it that no other state in that real outside world contributes as much to this forum as Californian’s do?


93 posted on 07/08/2010 11:34:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: DoughtyOne

No worries Boxer, But you will lose this November.


94 posted on 07/08/2010 11:36:02 AM PDT by TJC (V)
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To: liberlog

When someone is going on and on in favor of democrats to win elections, what other conclusion is there?


95 posted on 07/08/2010 11:37:53 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: brownsfan

Well, I wondered about a California Browns fan :)

I know what you are saying. America has a habit of electing wealthy less than optimums as Senators. In Tennessee we somehow elected Al gore and now Carthage his home doesn’t even have a sign celebrating his home place.


96 posted on 07/08/2010 11:42:38 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... The winds of war are freshening)
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To: brownsfan
A lot of other people were able to understand it. I’m sorry it proved too challenging for you.

Clearly I understood it, I picked out the fragment of information that was pertinent to the thread.

From your prior comments, it wasn't clear at all that you understood the information that was provided there.  You continue to miss the point in this post as well.  So clearly, you didn't understand it.  And it was a rather simple to understand presentation.  Once again, I am sorry it proved to be too challenging for you.

I just found the layout of the page to be horrible.

Yes, providing the dates, the actions taken by McCain, and links to articles that verify what I have posted is horrible isn't it.  /s

In addition, when there are programmatic ommissions on a site, the site’s amateurish nature undermines it’s message.

Unable to actually disprove anything I presented, you resort to trying to insult me and the web site it's located on.  You do see a bit of juvinality to that don't you?  Seriously?

You think and respond like a liberal.

I provided facts, and you have provided insults and name calling.  Now you frame this as me acting the part of a Liberal.  Okaaaay...

You hammer away at your one point... McCain is the source of all evil, to the exclusion of all else.

That 'one point' as you refer to it, has over one hundred and seventy-five points, with dates, specifics, and links.  As for 'all else', it's a reference to what John S. McCain has stood for during his life, that was not in line with Conservative principles.

You either agree with it, and supporting that sort of man, or you disagree with it, and are unable to supprot that sort of man.

The site I posted has nothing flattering about Fiorina, but you wouldn’t know that because you’re too busy trying to build your “website”.

Well, at least you're good for a laugh.

Go ahead, continue on your mission to do whatever it is you’re trying to do. You’ve clearly displayed that your input is suspect at best, and more likely useless.

Well, it's useless if you support John S. McCain, or people who have donated heavily to him and campaigned for him.  I'll grant you that.


97 posted on 07/08/2010 11:47:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: JPG

That’s “Senator Hag” to you, JPG!


98 posted on 07/08/2010 11:52:10 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Catsrus

I DON’T SUPPORT ANY LEFTISTS.

If you need me to explain that further, just let me know.


99 posted on 07/08/2010 11:54:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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To: TJC

You know, I spend lots of time developing documentation to herald what McCain stands for, because I don’t like what he or Boxer have been up to. I don’t like the people she hangs out with, or the bills she supports in the U. S. Senate.

When McCain is revealed to stand for this nonsense too, hand out with the very same people, I get snarky comments from folks who wish to frame me as Boxer’s best friend.

Calling me Boxer, doesn’t further your argument. It merely makes you look like a person who can’t deal with the truth.

I do not support fellow travelers of John McCain, Carly Fiorina, or Barbara Boxer. And I’m about the only person on this thread who has made that abundantly clear.


100 posted on 07/08/2010 12:00:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me... is not indicative of Presidential timber.)
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