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Coming Chaos: No Banks, No Public Facilities, No Food and Rampaging Gangs of Desperate People
The Market Oracle ^ | 7-5-2010 | Mac Salvo

Posted on 07/05/2010 3:22:21 PM PDT by blam

Coming Chaos: No Banks, No Public Facilities, No Food And Rampaging Gangs Of Desperate People

Politics / Social Issues
Jul 05, 2010 - 02:18 PM
By: Mac_Slavo

Bob Chapman, of The International Forecaster, says it’s time to prepare for the worst, comparing our impending economic crisis to that which was experienced at the onset of 1348 and the following century and a half.

Flashback to 1348:

The Black Death is estimated to have killed 30% to 60% of Europe’s population, reducing the world’s population from an estimated 450 million to between 350 and 375 million in 1400.
This has been seen as creating a series of religious, social and economic upheavals which had profound effects on the course of European history. It took 150 years for Europe’s population to recover. The plague returned at various times, resulting in a larger number of deaths, until it left Europe in the 19th century.

While Chapman does not suggest we will experience our own black plague pandemic, he predicts that the consequences of our economic collapse may lead to total destabilization and wars, much like post-plague Europe.

As you are now well aware Fannie and Freddie are going to punish people who have stopped paying their mortgages, who can pay them, and who are paying other bills instead.
This leaves lenders with foreclosures and much more inventory than they ever imagined. This additional problem will bring on the double dip that Wall Street and Washington so fear.
As a result of this and other failures we are about to experience the worst economic collapse sine 1348.
The stock market is topping out readying itself for its most disastrous fall in history. The fall will be followed by years of depression, all of which has been deliberately created to bring the world economically and financially to its knees in an attempt to bring about world government by Illuminists. Some market analysts understand where the market is headed, but most who do understand, write and talk about the mundane observable trappings and not what the situation is really all about.
We have several analysts talking about a market collapse. They do not talk about the real forces behind our misfortune.

There are always these lone voices in the wilderness, which at best – some 15% of the populace – listens too. You had better listen this time because it could well cost you not only your assets, but your life, especially when another war is being prepared for you to engage in. Nothing is really as it seems to be and there are no coincidences. You are about to enter a world of chaos from which few will survive unscathed.
A world of no banks, no public facilities, no food and rampaging gangs of desperate people. Unemployment of 50% and little law and order. Violence will be rife. This is not a pretty picture, but we have spared you the details. The world had better wake up fast so they’ll be prepared to deal with what is to come. If you were not aware of it the dark side really exists.

… We are now entering the next to last phase of our journey. The wanton creation of wealth, inflation and perhaps hyperinflation, which will rob you of your assets. A stealth attack on what you have left by the people who control your government.
Such monetary creation is the only way these people can keep the game going. They know it won’t last, but they proceed anyway. For awhile they’ll keep the multitudes at bay with extended unemployment and food stamps, but that will fade in time for lack of financial control, as the system begins to break down.

You already see all fiat currencies under fire, as is sovereign debt. Can it get any worse? Of course it can, and it will. Implosion is the word everyone is going to discover and understand.

The picture Bob Chapman paints is one that may lead to an initial reaction of, “What? No way that can happen.”

Perhaps it can’t happen. Perhaps, it really is different this time and our benevolent leaders and the powers that be are capable of managing this crisis. Perhaps they will restore jobs to pre-crash levels. Perhaps home prices will go back up to record 2006 levels because tens of thousands of buyers will appear in the market. Perhaps the Federal reserve will be able to sell of their toxic assets, not have to print more money to bail anyone out, and the world will demand that the dollar remain the reserve currency of choice.
Perhaps all of these people in delinquency on their mortgages will be able to catch up on those late payments. Perhaps governments will stop spending more than they take in and all of their debts will be paid off.
Perhaps the globe’s top financiers will figure out a way to deleverage the trillions of bad debt currently working it’s way through the system.

Or, perhaps they will not be able to reverse course.

Let’s assume that they can’t reverse course. How bad can it really get?

This is something that our elected officials and those at the Fed, Treasury and large institutions will not overtly discuss.

But clues have been dropped throughout the last several years. And, you need to look no further than those very same officials.

President Obama, during the green shoots recovery of 2009 and 2010, told the American people that a depression was avoided. Thus, we can assume that a depression is a strong possibility if we are in fact about to see another economic collapse.

In 2008 and 2009, former Secretary of Treasury Henry Paulson said that we were “on the brink,” in fact, after he left his position with Treasury, he wrote a book with this very title.
The brink, from what we can surmise, meant a complete collapse of our financial, economic and political systems. The result would have been martial law. Hard to believe? Yes. Impossible? No:

Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday, that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousands points the first day, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.

House Representative Brad Sherman (D-California) Debate on the House Floor, October 2, 2008 [video source]

If you are a prepper - someone who is planning on worst-case scenarios in order to preserve your life, liberty, and wealth - then you, like us, should assume that the worst case scenario has not been avoided.

We’ve discussed possible outcomes before, as well as ways to prepare if the worst does happen. The following articles may be of assistance with collapse scenarios, and ways to prepare and survive:

Hyperinflationary Depression - No Way of Avoiding Financial Armageddon

What is Money When the System Collapses?

If You Haven’t Acquired Self Defense Capabilities, the Time to Do So Was Yesterday

We realize that sometimes we sound like a broken record, but at the very least, make sure you have reserve food, water, self defense weapons, ammunition, and if possible, a way to get out of the city if you happen to live in one.

The worst of it is still ahead.


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KEYWORDS: depression; doom; emergencyprep; politics; preppers; recession; recovery
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To: blam

The theory of complete societal breakdown fails in a whole series of ways.

To start with, our national infrastructure is basically sound. America has been awash in food since before the Great Depression. We have an overabundance of housing. We organize well, we’re heavily armed and belligerent.

Add to this that except for natural disasters, they rarely happen all at once, which gives us time to adapt.

“A world of no banks, no public facilities, no food and rampaging gangs of desperate people.”

Banks are overrated, and people are far less dependent on them than you might think. There are lots of alternatives to banks.

No public facilities? Well, electricity could get haphazard, because of the eco-dumbasses. But that could be fixed in a few years, or even months, after we throw the eco-dumbasses off cliffs. Other than that, water is a big priority out West, and it’s unlikely that it will become less so.

And again, plenty of food. Right now we have to pay farmers to *not* grow food. Even if all they have to grow it with is water and seed, no fertilizer or pesticide, they will still grow enough.

Rampaging gangs (of Mexicans?) Sorry. We got guns.


21 posted on 07/05/2010 3:39:43 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: blam

Just the other day, I had a half-dream and was pondering which of my 3 cats I would eat first. I love my cats and I’ve been a freakin’ vegetarian for 40 years...!

On the other hand, having a couple thousand rounds of various shiny brass pipe-plug thingies is rather a comfort. You know, the ones with the lead tip, or hollow-points.


22 posted on 07/05/2010 3:39:46 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: kingu
The Illuminati will not burn so bright once compact flourescent bulbs become mandatory.
23 posted on 07/05/2010 3:39:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Michael Barnes

For those who wish my manual can be downloaded at:

http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php


24 posted on 07/05/2010 3:40:58 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam

450 to 350 is a 60% drop in population?


25 posted on 07/05/2010 3:41:16 PM PDT by omega4179 (www.jdforsenate.com)
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To: snowrip
Anyone planning on rampaging should not plan on doing it within 700 yards of my house.

Just got back from a practice rampaging horde control.

Well, maybe the prairie dogs weren't rampaging, but did find a couple of good towns off the thoroughfare and back in the woods on the Thunder Basin.

Maybe I didn't do so good beyond 300 yds, but the AR was guttin' 'em pretty decent out to there. The others on the safari were using .22s and .17s leaving the long shots for me [;)]. I have a bunch of old and cheap Russian Wolf ammo I need to burn through as I am restocking with Lake City and PMC for the collapse.

26 posted on 07/05/2010 3:41:16 PM PDT by woofer
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To: barmag25

Moral of the story?.. Buy ammo. LOTS of it.


27 posted on 07/05/2010 3:41:54 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: snowrip

Mine either.


28 posted on 07/05/2010 3:43:04 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer
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To: blam
Coming Chaos: No Banks, No Public Facilities, No Food and Rampaging Gangs of Desperate People

Also, gangs of desperate government thugs commissioned by a big government thugocracy that will find it necessary to confiscate more and more from citizens in order to keep themselves paid and living the elitist high life. Don't doubt it for a second.

There will be those with guns and ammo, and those without.
I am, and will remain, armed to the teeth.

29 posted on 07/05/2010 3:43:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Selene

Probably. Its not cheap to insure those brick and mortars. It was a financial decision. Put the bullet proof in place, or pay X amount more to the insurance companies. Which was the cheaper cost. Which leads into, how did they get data to support bullet proof glass? Or is it a blanket policy they now hold....the mind wanders on that..


30 posted on 07/05/2010 3:43:53 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: Selene

Now that is an interesting development and thought.


31 posted on 07/05/2010 3:44:06 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: blam

We will call them zombies when the checks stop being mailed


32 posted on 07/05/2010 3:45:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Just say NO to conservativecave.com, it rots your teeth!)
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To: snowrip
We have neighbors with automatic weapons ~ one of the benefits of having embassy folk around the place. We have a shorter perimeter as a result, but one just as resolute.

With the economy down about 5% I doubt it will be any spunkier out there than it was about the time "W" was elected for the second time.

Unemployment is the real issue ~

33 posted on 07/05/2010 3:45:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Recon Dad

That depends on your location.

Around my woods, a hundred yards would be a long shot, so the 62gr 109 round should do just fine, even in a sixteen inch barrel.

Too, I trained with, and carried, the A1, so the carbines we have are very familiar. I also happen to like 30 round mags.

Worse comes to worse, out comes the scoped M1A...


34 posted on 07/05/2010 3:47:08 PM PDT by benewton
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To: blam
There would be a civil war that will kill most long before they starve. First against any government authority, and last against anyone not agreeing with the new militia in power.

But we have a way to go before that happens, and November will be a major checkpoint for the future.

35 posted on 07/05/2010 3:47:47 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: blam
If you die of MSG poisoning you are going to miss all the rampaging. Are you sure you just don't want to get a burger or a BLT?
36 posted on 07/05/2010 3:48:13 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: historyrepeatz

37 posted on 07/05/2010 3:48:24 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's called the "Statue of Liberty" and not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: blam

“world government by Illuminists.”

Sometimes ya feel like a nut....


38 posted on 07/05/2010 3:50:30 PM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

History is littered with various secret and semi-secret cabals. Some more powerful than others and many have done serious harm in one way or another. Has any been all powerful? No thank the Lord, but not because they didn’t try. Like all such enterprises they have one weakness that is power sharing, no one wants to do it, so in the end there are always power struggles or outside powers who get worried, jealous and crush them.

The power I fear most right now is the growing power of the Islamifacist. Organizations that have form around religion have always been among the most powerful and when you combine that with the cult of death that Islam is it should be enough to make every sane man worry.


39 posted on 07/05/2010 3:50:34 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“Banks are overrated, and people are far less dependent on them than you might think. There are lots of alternatives to banks.”

Almost every business, exists because if credit, no credit, no paychecks, no inventory, no cash flow, no nothing.


40 posted on 07/05/2010 3:51:01 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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