Posted on 06/27/2010 9:24:53 PM PDT by shield
The U.S. Navy has relieved the captain of a frigate (USS John L. Hall), because, two months ago, his ship bumped into a pier as it was docking in the Black Sea port of Batumi, Georgia. There was no damage to the pier, but the Hall suffered damage costing $160,000 to repair. After the investigation was over, the navy concluded that the captain should be relieved for loss of confidence in his ability to command.
That makes seven ship captains relieved so far this year, more than twice the rate that it has been relieving them in the last few years. That, in turn, is an increase over the rate for the 1990s. Other strange things are happening. One of the most recent dismissals was unusual for two reasons. First, the dismissed captain was a woman, and, secondly, the navy gave the reason (abusive treatment of the crew, and the captains demeanor and temperament). Complaints from the crew had been coming in for some time, and the captain was relieved as she was at the end of her tour of duty on the USS Cowpens, and in the process of turning over command to another officer. The dismissed captain went off to her next assignment, as a staff officer, but her career prospects are now rather dim.
The navy rarely releases details of why the officers are relieved. But the usual reasons are character flaws of one kind or another. Running the ship aground is seen as a rather obvious failing, but it is not the most common one. Those would be cases involving "zipper control" (adultery with another officer's wife, or a subordinate). The British also relieve a lot of commanders, and are more forthcoming with the reasons. One British skipper got the sack recently for "bullying."....
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Okay all you sea dogs out there, tell me about this. I work with an ex-navy guy and he tells me that the Captain is always responsible even if he isn’t. That’s the way the Navy has always been run. If a meteor came out of the sky and struck a ship at sea and damaged it then the Captain is at fault. No matter how preposterous it may seem, the Captain is at fault. Is there a degree of truth in this. Does the top brass hang you out to dry even if it’s not your fault? I’d be interested in knowing.
The background key to this story is Who did The Usurper appoint as Sec. of Navy?
If memory serves me, it was a politician from Mississippi who served a whopping 4 years in the Navy.
Please correct me if I am misstating fact here.
Treason In Motion (TIM) confirmed again?
Yes.
Rocks and shoals.....your crew should be trained and prepared for anything and everything no blaming Bush.
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women drivers!!!!
I would say this is more than hanging out to dry. This is the most incompetent fool in the world being the most incompetent fool in the world.
Anyone had enough of him to have him resign?
According to Wikipedia (the font of all knowledge) he served two years 1971 - 1972 as a Lt Jg abord the USS Little Rock (CG-4). A real salt. /sarc
CC
Well I was a airdale on a carrier and according to NAVY regs, any Officer who is qualified to be a sea going Officer of the Deck(OOD)has his final qual signed by the Commanding Officer, so thus any action(s)other than those that would be considered an Act of GOD by the NAVY thus become the fault of the Commanding Officer since in the end it is his ship, the only time I saw a Commanding Officer escape blame was when our ship hit a unknown rock during docking at which point the ship was under the direction of the harbor pilot.
Hope this cleans some of it up on why a Commanding Officer is alays at fault.
A member of the crew may be guilty, but the captain is always responsible. That’s why leadership and unity on a ship is so important - everyone wants to succeed, and failure is not an option.
My first thought is, who is the Navy putting in command of these ships now that their Captain’s have been removed? And who is making the decisions about who will be the new captiains of these boats..? I smell a rat... Sorta like the one that ran around the feet of the President in the Rose Garder a couple of weeks agao.... Soon, I fear he will “OWN” the Navy, lock, stock & barrel....
It's a sailor in one of the aviation rates. They maintain aircraft on a carrier or at a naval air station.
That is how fascism works FRiend, substitution of personal loyalty to replace the oath to the constitution and its nation.Thats what happened in Italy, Spain and Germany prior to WWII.
Aviation Boastwain’s Mate Handler——We handle all the movement of aircraft on the flight deck and shore bases as well as aircraft firefighting.
The false premise here is that there are situations onboard ship that the skipper isn't accountable for. There aren't. That's what accountability is all about. I know that's an unusual concept these days, but that's how it is when one man's action (or inaction) can get another man killed.
Thank you very much. I went on in another thread about how Hitler used race hate and socialism to be the most successful “community organizer” in history. Once he got in charge, it was loyalty over competence all the way to the end.
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