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Panel divided on keeping all remaining jailed Hutaree behind bars
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 23 June, 2010 | David Codrea

Posted on 06/25/2010 8:55:24 AM PDT by marktwain

An appeals court has reversed a lower court ruling to free all Hutaree militia members pending trial. From The Michigan Messenger:

A three-judge panel for the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals has overturned a lower court ruling granting a release on bond for the five remaining members of the Hutaree 9 still in custody pending a trial on charges of seditious conspiracy.

But it was not a unanimous decision for two of the members:

The appeals court was partially divided, with all three judges agreeing that David and Joshua Stone and Michael Meeks should be held in jail pending trial. Two of the three judges ruled the same for [Thomas] Piatek and [Joshua]Clough but the third judge disagreed on those two particular defendants.

We've discussed the release of four Hutaree members in a previous Gun Rights Examiner column. We've also looked at evidence of prosecutorial misrepresentation to prevent that from happening, and looked earlier at why the lower court deemed all defendants eligible for bail.

A lot of developments have occurred since I submitted the draft for my August 2010 GUNS Magazine "Rights Watch" column on the subject--one of the drawbacks of trying to cover current events when the time between writing and publication is measured in months. When I wrote it, none of these releases had happened and key factors such as the government's lead investigator not remembering details on the stand had not yet occurred.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; codrea; constitution; examiner; gun; hutaree
When the people who run the government have distain for the very concept of right and wrong, it is not surprising that they engender distrust.
1 posted on 06/25/2010 8:55:29 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I can’t wait until the truth finally comes out... This may be another Ruby Ridge or Waco.


2 posted on 06/25/2010 8:57:26 AM PDT by Reddy
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To: marktwain

Keep them in jail long enough and the FBI will produce “evidence” that they had a suitcase nuke.


3 posted on 06/25/2010 9:03:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...

If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 9:04:35 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: marktwain

And in an unrelated story; Mexican cartels are operating and supporting armed observation posts on numerous hilltops inside Arizona. But lets lock up the Hutarees,, thats the *true* menace.


5 posted on 06/25/2010 9:14:00 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Candor7

Have any of the Hutaree given interviews yet?


6 posted on 06/25/2010 9:16:26 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: marktwain

I hear the sibilant swish of millions of cleaning rods pushing Hoppe’s number 9 through. Nothing like a clean well oiled rifle.


7 posted on 06/25/2010 9:17:10 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: Reddy

I am so glad that the FReepers realize how framed these guys are.

I’m in MI and I know tons of people like this. They run in the woods and shoot trees. They are survivalists and I’m sure they did talk about what they would do if the Government came to get them.

I can almost guarantee they wouldn’t start the war.


8 posted on 06/25/2010 9:18:10 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Candor7

I notice they’ve backed off from their insistence on the use of the term “Christian” militia.

Demonizing Christians as dangerous terrorists must have been a step too far... for now. But this was a test case, make no mistake.


9 posted on 06/25/2010 9:19:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: hennie pennie

All I’ve seen here is MI is the leader’s ex-wife bashing him all over the place while singing how innocent their son is.

Like she’s credible....


10 posted on 06/25/2010 9:19:38 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: MrB; Beckwith
IMHO they were hoping the Hutaree would shoot and they would have taken 7 of them out in body bags with a presser to follow, to vindicate the finding of home grown domestic red neck terrorists, declared in Janet Napolitano's former written finding at Homeland Security. ( She apologized to veterans but the finding was NOT withdrawn.)Its simply fascist brinkmanship. IMHO they were not prepared for a surrender. Few know of the heavy ordnance they carried to demolish these 7 citizens, ( the other two were in a separate location, they were to be the confessees.)

This could happen at any rural rod and gun club where private citizens keep their skills fresh.

We have a fascist Obama unit from Homeland Security working within the FBI.That's what all the disagreement was about earlier when the FBI was accused of not cooperating with Homeland Security.( Homeland Security also now controls domestic FBI investigations into militant Islamic groups and racial minorities otherwise the duty of the FBI.

Make no mistake about it.

Someone has to draw the line, and it won't be government either.

11 posted on 06/25/2010 9:32:41 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: MrB

I hope they keep up demonizing Christians, the new Jews of America.Christians In Action. Obama wants it to happen but its a little too early, we need to get closer to 2012 before he cranks things up and saves the nation from domestic terrorists in order to get re-elected..


12 posted on 06/25/2010 9:35:45 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: marktwain

Emil I just got and probably been around a few times but it’s so true I had to share.

THE FENCE

If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this

is a great test!

If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one.

If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.

If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for

everyone.

If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.

If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his

situation.

A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches

channels.

Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.

A liberal non-believer, any mention of God and religion is

silenced. (Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!)

If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about

shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.

A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a conservative reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can

have a good laugh.

A liberal will delete it because he’s “offended”.

Well, I forwarded it to you.


13 posted on 06/25/2010 9:44:38 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Haven’t seen it before. Thanks. Copied and forwarded ;)


14 posted on 06/25/2010 9:59:44 AM PDT by Reddy
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To: Candor7

They almost kicked WACO 2 off by their little raid, the feds found later that their assembly points for the raid were under surveillance by the MM. Plus, they told almost 2 days to setup the command center and it was all over the Internet before the raid.


15 posted on 06/25/2010 10:22:46 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Reddy

Yeah, that’s got to get under a libs skin.
There’s no denying that tidbit.

Thanks for passing on.


16 posted on 06/25/2010 2:51:54 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: ClayinVA
Yes, I believe that the FBI is now tolerating a little fascist cadre of agents in its midst. I would like to see the FBI hoist their butts out of its hierarchy and send them back to Homeland Security.

The AIC was fromm New York, hstory of working with the Muslim Community.His sorry butt needs a disciplining stroke.

17 posted on 06/25/2010 3:27:20 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama .......yes.......is a fascist... ...He meets every diagnostic of history)
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To: Candor7
Just a little update ~ after piddling around several more months the court is now hearing motions to just turn these guys loose pending anything.

There's been no new news regarding anything ~ no suitcase nukes, no storehouse of anthrax, no nothing but a couple of them had some guns and bullets ~ and as much as those stores might have seemed to some (even here at FR) I've known many other people to have that much just scattered about the home here and there ~ always ready to go hunting or shooting.

I think they did find a guy in the Detroit DA's shop who was probably a deep AlQaida plant but other than him seeming to move on somewhere else there's been no more news on that ~ as if they'd tell anybody.

Now it's TSA's turn in the can. Whereas all those FBI guys were college grads and had been taught how to talk nicely to people ~ kinda ~ the TSA folks are strictly working class who can tote 70 lbs across the room and see without glasses.

The TSA is going to be making the FBI and US Marshall's Service LOOK SMOOTH and POLISHED.

I'm still waiting for some evidence on the Hutaree to show up. Really doesn't seem to be any, but that's not at all surprising ~ the Obamistas really have no idea what they are supposed to be doing ~ and some of the pukes they've brought INTO the White House and the Executive Office Building are certainly more dangerous to Obama and his family than any of these guys.

Need to check back in 5 months to see if this has improved.

18 posted on 11/23/2010 4:21:11 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: muawiyah

and some of the pukes they’ve brought INTO the White House and the Executive Office Building are certainly more dangerous to Obama and his family than any of these guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

True!

BTW:

The Hutaree accused should be released, they are innocent men who the government tried to frame. It failed.The only reason they are keeping them in jail is so they won’t sue the government.


19 posted on 11/23/2010 4:59:14 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_ipthe_quintessentia_1.html)
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