Posted on 06/16/2010 12:51:05 PM PDT by tutstar
MRS. RONDEAU: I heard the broadcast on Chalices show last Monday wherein General Cash and you called for having Obama and his regime removed from office. How do you think the American people could get that done?
GEN. VALLELY: When you go back to the Constitution, it says that its the peoples right to remove a government, hopefully through a peaceful process. If you look at whats out there, as far as the people and the government are concerned, there are only about four ways for a peaceful transfer of power. One way, of course, is through the elections. The second is to demand resignation, where the people actually demand that a sitting president resign as they did when the pressure was put on Richard Nixon, for example. Now with that pressure and declining popularity dipping into 40% support, then 30, then 20% basically, its a no-confidence vote of the people that this executive is not doing the job for America. So then you have the demand-resignation pressure that could occur on the part of the people of the country, and other leadership, corporate as well as political, that could create a tremendous demand that this administration resign. And Im not talking only about Obama resigning for incompetence, corruptness, fraud, lying, and treasonous occurrences in his administration which are violations of his oath and violation of the Constitution, but also his entire political apparatus in Washington and those who contributed to the corruption. So there is plenty of material there that should create enough public support that they demand his resignation.
MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think that weve reached that point in America?
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Demand resignations?? I’d prefer they be indicted for corruption and treason.
very good point
From the Article:
MRS. RONDEAU: Even if Obama is a natural born Citizen as required by Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution, with all of the things he is allowing to happen and causing to happen, what do the military brass expect to hold on to? It would seem that ultimately, there may not be anything left.
GEN. VALLELY: Well, thats right, and thats why theyre so short-sighted. Youll certainly see a lack of men and women volunteering for the military, youll see more retirements, and youll see more of these people leaving the Armed Forces. This is what your enlisted and lower-ranked officers will do. Theyre not going to take it any more. [...]
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Interesting, and quite true. I’ve already done it (left the Armed Services). After putting in 9 years for the Army (National Guard), I realized that the whole organization is more about “status quo,” politics, and the “good old boy”-system rather than protecting/defending/enforcing the Constitution.
One of the things that spurred this on was the whole Obama fiasco regarding his birth cert. & citizenship status. Another was the acts of the 111th Congress in its acting against AIG/bailout-recipiants. (If the ‘officials’ can impose de facto retroactive law [ex post facto law], in conjunction with a de facto method of targeting individuals or corporations [Bills of Attainder] then there is no safety in the law... one can NEVER use it as a shield or a sword against those in power, but those in power may definitely use it as sword and shield to protect themselves from you & punish/coerce your compliance in anything they will.)
That sums up a common thread in these that I’ve written:
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ATyjMtQJe7iWZHY2OTh0bV8yNWM3YjM1Y2M5&hl=en
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dv698tm_22dr6x3nfb
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dv698tm_28c83cqsch
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Yes! Null and void! But can we somehow get around McCain straight to Ms. Palin. Heaven....must be missing an angel.
>Did you read the other article,posted earlier, regarding the 3500 mile area now off limits because of the violence?
No, I didn’t see that. I’m actually still on this article. (Some good stuff that I had to interrupt myself to comment on.)
What really “scares” (though that’s not the best word... maybe ‘concerns’?) my is the law being [mis]used to make everyone ‘criminals.’ As Ayn Rand said: “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”
Here in New Mexico there’s a prime example of something that should NOT be illegal being illegal (which I’m trying to fix); our State Constitution says:
No law shall abridge the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms for security and defense, for lawful hunting and recreational use and for other lawful purposes, but nothing herein shall be held to permit the carrying of concealed weapons. No municipality or county shall regulate, in any way, an incident of the right to keep and bear arms.
Yet, despite this clear prohibition of the restriction of the Citizen’s right to keep and bear arms (for security & defense) by law there is a law restricting just that right on University Grounds:
http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dll?f=FifLink&t=document-frame.htm&l=query&iid=66b036fd.eebbfe6.0.0&q=%5BGroup%20%2730-7-2.4%27%5D
On School Grounds:
http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dll?f=FifLink&t=document-frame.htm&l=query&iid=66b036fd.eebbfe6.0.0&q=%5BGroup%20%2730-7-2.1%27%5D
[Technically] Possessing a Handgun:
http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext.dll?f=FifLink&t=document-frame.htm&l=query&iid=66b036fd.eebbfe6.0.0&q=%5BGroup%20%2730-7-2.2%27%5D
So, as you can see there are enough State Statutes in play that, if they wanted to, they could bust me for “breaking state laws” even though said laws are contrary to both letter and spirit of the State Constitution which I quoted to you.
If McCain woke up one day and found out he is legally the President ,he’d probley have a heart attack! problem solved!! President Palin would be like a new Reagan!
You don’t send a boy to do a man’s job!!
The Missouri Constitution states:
Bill of Rights Section 23
Right to keep and bear arms-exception,-That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned; but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons. 1875 I’m sure though, buried elsewhere is the same law regarding the Universities and all schools in general.
We now have CCW here as well. But everyone is running out taking these courses, plastering their names AND fingerprints on applications in order to obtain the license. A friend of mine was trying to get me to go but I refuse to give my fingerprints or name either for that matter.
There was a thread the other evening regarding NY and somebody uploaded the entire list of CCW on the internet. It included names, AND addresses. This was deliberate and imo came from Obama’s minions in order to put those people in ‘personal’ jeopardy. One of the posters verified that his name was on there.
You are right regarding the laws...and if truth be known, we are all criminals in one way or another...just by the fact that there are thousands and thousands of laws & regulations that these corrupt/power hungry legislators have passed both federally and on state levels as well. It’s just a matter of enforcement now
Is your legislature liberal or conservative there?
>Thanks for that Shark. Did you compose those writings?
You’re quite welcome; and, yes, I did write them.
>Great writing with extraordinary strong points.
Thank you.
>We are in essence, captive...
I wrote one article which was so politically incorrect that it got pulled off of FR, and it deals with captivity... kinda.
If you want to read it, it’s here:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ATyjMtQJe7iWZHY2OTh0bV8yN2htZnBzOWQy&hl=en
>The one thing I noticed in the writings listing the criminal element, there was nothing said about the communist ties and philosphies that are currently ‘packed’ in the WH.
It really isn’t needed; adding ‘political philosophies’ to it would make it about ‘politics’ when I want it to be about Right and Wrong (that is, Justice), on the broadest possible terms. (i.e. even if someone holds a completely differing political viewpoint I should like to think that they can see the moral reprehensibility & legal ramifications here.)
>Vallely is spot on in this interview.
I thought so too.
>I emailed this over to Drudge...but I’d like to have further verification of this exchange.
‘This’ being the article, or ‘this’ being what I wrote? {It’s hard to tell because it’s all a single paragraph...}
>Thanks for your service Shark. 9 years is a good stretch.
You’re welcome.
>Do you happen to belong to Oathkeepers?
No, Not officially. (I’m out of the Army and not employed in any official capacity.) I do like what they’re about though... sad as it is to say, I wouldn’t be surprised if 40-70% of the armed forces stuck with the Government if ordered to do Constitutionally questionable (or even contra-Constitutional) things.
There’s such a wide range there because there are a LOT of variables in play: civilian family, moral fortitude, the Leadership ‘Aura’ from those above them, peer pressure, conditioning to “do as you are ordered,” the realization that “I was following orders” will be rejected as a defense, the realization that NOT following orders will result in punishment, and so forth.
>Is your legislature liberal or conservative there?
NM is considered to be a Democrat state, usually... but there are some odd, odd quirks. (Someone once said that: if you try doing something “that’s worked everywhere else” it’ll fail in New Mexico.)
NM also seems to have a lot of residual “patronage” mentality/politics (from Mexico and Spain and before) wherein people are loyal to a person rather than a party (happily) or (sadly) the laws.
I apologize for poor formatting :(
It was the interview that I sent over to Drudge. He could verify it and give it legs. The only thing that I saw, and it’s not clear how Drudge feels about it, is that Maj Gen Vallely spoke about the LBC issue. If Drudge is one of those that think only kooks believe that BO is not a citizen, he may not follow up.
>all three well said...
Thank you! :)
You might like this one too:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ATyjMtQJe7iWZHY2OTh0bV8yN2htZnBzOWQy&hl=en
>I apologize for poor formatting :(
That’s fine.
I just wanted to be sure I understood you.
(Though, I wouldn’t mind more people reading what I wrote.)
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