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Posted on 06/15/2010 6:47:18 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271

Two teen murderers from New Hampshire were NOT expelled from their high school despite murdering a woman last year. The school system in the state is looking into whether or not they are permitted to expel students for something like this.

Have to ask why a school would even be debating this. I thought New Hampshire was a "live free or die" state. Is this what the education system has come to?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New Hampshire; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: academia; brainwashing; crime; dea; educationsystem; homeschooling; liberalfascism; liberalkoolaid; lping; obamavoters; publicschooling; taxes; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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1 posted on 06/15/2010 6:47:18 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: metmom; Tired of Taxes; wintertime; bamahead

“Two teen murderers from New Hampshire were NOT expelled from their high school despite murdering a woman last year. The school system in the state is looking into whether or not they are permitted to expel students for something like this.”

I think I’ve found the best reason to homeschool in the ping’s history, You agree?


2 posted on 06/15/2010 6:49:04 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: citizenredstater9271

School rules today should include “convicted felons ineligible for class attendance”, especially in inner-city schools. So many teen gang members, convicted felons, drug-dealers, etc. are there these days that allowing them into classrooms invites illegal activity, or even murder.


3 posted on 06/15/2010 6:49:40 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: citizenredstater9271

I would guess they have not been convicted yet? If not why would they not be in jail?


4 posted on 06/15/2010 6:52:31 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Isn't enough always enough?)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Did they use any racists or sexist speech while committing the murder, or possess a pocketknife or an aspirin? There’s zero tolerance for that.


5 posted on 06/15/2010 6:54:30 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: citizenredstater9271

Technically, if they didn’t commit the crime on the school campus, it isn’t the school’s place to do that. I’ve seen kids who committed lesser offenses back in school the following day after their arrest (mom or dad posts bail, court date set sometime in the future, etc.). In this case, it sounds like the “students” should be in jail awaiting trial anyway, which should make an expulsion a moot point.


6 posted on 06/15/2010 6:54:47 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: ThomasThomas

They haven’t yet but from what I’ve read two have plead guilty. The two students who weren’t expelled both plead not guilty and are awaiting trial.


7 posted on 06/15/2010 6:56:11 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271

How odd? Earlier we had schools punishing student for things they did at home like:

1. fights with other students
2. facebook postings

Now we have a school unable to remove students who have committed off campus murders?

Hmm.


8 posted on 06/15/2010 6:57:06 PM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: citizenredstater9271
Reason eleventy brazillian and 43 why my kids are in a private Christian school that happens to be 24/7/365. ANYTHING they go at school or away from school they are held accountable by the school.
9 posted on 06/15/2010 7:01:22 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: JLS

It’s like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. On one hand the school should expel kids for murder however we don’t want school officials behaving like the nanny state and expelling kids for everything and anything off school grounds like they get involved in kid’s lives.


10 posted on 06/15/2010 7:01:54 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271

Schools are responsible for the safety and welfare of their students - they should have the right to expel when necessary ...

What next ??? Allowing teachers who have sex with students [off school property] to keep their jobs ???


11 posted on 06/15/2010 7:04:41 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: citizenredstater9271

New New Hampshire state motto: “Live free from accountability or die trying.”


12 posted on 06/15/2010 7:12:47 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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When in Massachusetts they hang you for smoking in a public place but probably let as many convicted felons in their school system as possible.


13 posted on 06/15/2010 7:19:06 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271

New Hampshire isn’t perfect but it certainly beats an all-out nanny state like Massachusetts. A friend of mine lived in both and can’t begin to explain what a difference there is just by crossing a border.


14 posted on 06/15/2010 7:20:12 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...
Two teen murderers from New Hampshire were NOT expelled from their high school despite murdering a woman last year ... The school system in the state is looking into whether or not they are permitted to expel students for something like this.

Common sense in government education has died a really long, slow, painful death. Gruesome, isn't it?



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15 posted on 06/15/2010 7:35:38 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: citizenredstater9271

It really should be a moot point. Why are they even out of prison, and in a position to attend school? They belong in a prison-based GED program.


16 posted on 06/15/2010 7:39:56 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: citizenredstater9271

I agree completely. Yet these are the same kind of school administrators that expel students for leaving plastic butter knives visible in their cars.

We really can’t expect them to apply common sense to any situation, either in the best interest of student liberty, rights, or in this case safety. Big catch 22.


17 posted on 06/15/2010 7:43:45 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; ExTexasRedhead

I thought that the student body I dealt with was bad.


18 posted on 06/15/2010 7:44:50 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: traditional1
School rules today should include “convicted felons ineligible for class attendance”, especially in inner-city schools. So many teen gang members, convicted felons, drug-dealers, etc. are there these days that allowing them into classrooms invites illegal activity, or even murder.

Even CA expells these students.

19 posted on 06/15/2010 7:46:15 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Their in prison of course but the point is they were NEVER formally expelled from school.


20 posted on 06/15/2010 7:53:48 PM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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