Posted on 05/27/2010 5:53:57 AM PDT by dennisw
Edited on 05/27/2010 6:12:15 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Reporting from Houma, La. Engineers have succeeded in stopping the flow of oil and gas into the Gulf of Mexico from a gushing BP well, the federal government's top oil spill commander, U.S. Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen, said Thursday morning.
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No one is saying that it is.
All solutions that leave the wellhead intact and easily put back into service instead of just STOPPING it first and worrying about re-tapping later.
I'm fine with them trying to protect their investment, but I'm not fine with them doing so while their actions/in-actions are actively harming others.
Their total costs in cleanup and reparations to those property/business owners along the coast will exceed the cost of having to re-tap the well.
Public relations aside, how is that "smart" business?
Oh...give him time....he is waiting on the hole to be plugged before he does his ‘victory lap’ on the rig. I predict he will be standing on that rig as soon as the danger of another explosion is over and the hole has been plugged.
But NASA had the benefit of live people to 'rebuild' the air purifier. If they were stuck with using robots to do the rebuild, well, everyone would have been dead.
If you were aware of the amount of equipment that had to be brought in, the amount of fabrication that had to be done, the complexity of the equipment and the time-consuming safety procedures for hooking up tons of hoses and electrical wires, and testing every connection, then you might be less cynical of the timespan.
I’m well aware of the scope of this. I still would not compare this effort to that of Apollo 13. Sorry ... just my opinion.
They have said from the beginning that they intend on plugging the initial well. No one in their right mind would produce through a well that has a compromised cement job across their liner. The replacements wells are intended to be actual producers.
READ THIS
The Gulf Deepwater Oil Spill - the Top Kill Attempt
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6505
Actually, they've said precisely that. What I was referring to was "how" they could know that. What folks are seeing blasting out of the leak points is the mud used to displace the oil back "down hole", not oil or gas coming out.
Can I give you a link??? No. I browse/cruise information sites to learn stuff for myself. I'm willing to share the info I come up with. Believe me or don't believe me, I don't much care.
A lot of people would like him to send him to that rig!!!! :) Deep Six!
The size of the relative tasks was just "slightly" different. The magnitude of the job BP and its contractors had to do is probably not matched by any effort in recent history, probably since the development of the A-bomb in WWII. Just organizing the logistics was a gargantuan task.
Because Obama had no experts. Lawyers, however, are a dime a dozen.
Sheppard Smith is a left wing guy from Mississippi. He makes no attempt to hide his political orientation. I’ll never forget his histrionics during Katrina when he was bashing Bush for that catastrophe.
He snarles at the people he interviews who are not leftists. He makes faces to indicate his displeasure with the person he interviews. All in all, I think he is a jerk.
Lurkin' and Learnin'
I just saw that the woman who heads up the governmental agency that is supposed to monitor drilling operationshas been fired. Her name is Birnbaum.
Her bio includes the fact that she worked in the Interior Dept. and is a long time conservationist. It figures.
Oh! Obama is going to give a speech later today. I know! He almost never makes speeches. I don’t think I can stand the exitement, so I won’t be watching.
As long as the public understands that 'success' means the wellhead is holding, and the pumping has begun, which has reduced the flow of oil and gas to the surface. It will still take time to get the proper amount of mud in the pipe, and then they can inject the 'cement'. Then the cement must set up. This could still take 2 more days, to end all leaks on the wellhead and riser.
Further proof that we are dieing as a society.
Let me tell you a few of the things the Fed. GOVT should have been doing:
1. WAIVE ALL “environmental regulations” and “reviews” immediately about things that governors were asking to do. Release Army Corps of Engineers and Reserves with their equipment to go help out under control of their local commands, instead of having anybody in Fed gov’t micromanage things and delay them.
2. Get out of BPs WAY!
3. FORGET hearings and other litigious BS - Why the heck are sapping the time of BP, Schlumberger, Halliburton, etc. in the middle of this immediate problem. THere is time for hearings and such MONTHS from now!
4. REVIEW regulations and laws and waive those that are hurting IMMEDIATELY, and work with Congress, BP and other companies to encourage and facilitate brainpower worldwide that is knowledgeable about this environment and this type of operation ... the goal to be enabling the best experts in the world to all be working on this unprecedented occurrence. Sign executive orders saying that anything done by BP in good faith from now on will be free of legal and fiscal responsibility if it fails! This should have been done a full month ago. The NEED for this was obvious a full month ago. Instead, BP has had to very carefully choose the limited number of outside experts due to concerns about litigation, “intellectual property” rights, patent infringements, etc. CLEARLY the defensive way that BP has had to act may have serve to delay or possibly even destroy the best ways to deal with this. Not only did they fail to do that, the STUPID FEDs even went so far as to REMOVE one of their OWN initially chosen experts from a panel because he happens to have written things that homosexuals don’t like! This makes sense? Do you think it makes sense that BP has been forced to be coy about information and associations cause of legal considerations? “Regulatory considerations? This was the time for LEADERS in DC to come together... instead we have lots of environuts and ambulance chasers and political opportunists running around doing things to delay and deter.
5. CONGRATULATE and ACKNOWLEDGE all the effort that BP has been making tirelessly ... advertise that they have been working hard and that they are one of the BEST in the world to be working on this. I know lots of people want to point out “safety violations”, etc... but this is the time to acknowledge and advertise their EXPERTS are among the BEST. It also wouldn’t have hurt if the Feds would let people know in strong and loud terms that this discovery BP is working on exploiting is a MAJOR find, that could ITSELF reduce by 5% the US’ daily oil imports! BP can’t do that now because it would sound too whiney, but the Feds should be saying that! The spill is huge and terrible, but the news here is not all bad!
6. GET OUT OF BP’s WAY - and facilitate their operations instead of doing stupid things like BANNING BP from using APPROVED DISPERSANTS! THen when BP says to the EPA, what do you want us to use ? what is less toxic and more effective ? watching the EPA say sheepishly “dunno”... After all, ALL of those chemicals on the list were “approved” ... they ALL have been deemed able to be used. But when BP actually USES them to HELP SAVE THE COASTS, the DUMB FEDS get in the way! Grandstanding by Politicians, Bureaucrats, Environuts, Ambulance Chasers, etc... yet again!
7. LOCATE THE FIRE BOOMS that the US purchased since 1994 and get them in action! Well - that should have been done over a month ago. I suspect strongly that “someone” in Obama’s adminstration knows very well where they are ... that Soros got them for Brazil and other of his oil interests abroad. (Brazil was not sold booms, yet they have them. US WAS sold booms, but the Coast Guard couldn’t find them - thus the “Delay” of the “burning test” that was in the news a month ago. I wonder where our booms are? I guess that Brazil is loaning us some. I bet that Chavez has not.)
I don’t want to take the time to go on but you get the drift there are clearly things you must admit that the FEDS have not done what they could and should have done. MOST of that is “executive branch” stuff - therefore OBAMAs responsibility.
Much of the above is simply politician crapola. Much is a result of Obama’s absolutely incompetent choices for cabinet and other appointments. “Science Adviser” and “Energy adviser” etc... LOOK AT THE LACK OF REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/02/obama-green-team-stephen-chu-secretary-of-energy.php
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/03/obama-science-dream-team.php
http://www.whrc.org/pressroom/press_releases/PR-2008-12-19-Holdren-Obama.htm
The Obama Administration has FAR LESS real world expertise than almost EVERY other adminstration in the history of this country! It is no wonder that they are so incompetent when it comes to REAL WORLD PROBLEMS. The BLAME for this lies SOLELY at the top of the executive branch - Obama.
If you don’t see what Obama should have done differently, go back to sucking your thumb and voting yes for fools.
Let me tell you a few of the things the Fed. GOVT should have been doing:
1. WAIVE ALL “environmental regulations” and “reviews” immediately about things that governors were asking to do. Release Army Corps of Engineers and Reserves with their equipment to go help out under control of their local commands, instead of having anybody in Fed gov’t micromanage things and delay them.
2. Get out of BPs WAY!
3. FORGET hearings and other litigious BS - Why the heck are sapping the time of BP, Schlumberger, Halliburton, etc. in the middle of this immediate problem. THere is time for hearings and such MONTHS from now!
4. REVIEW regulations and laws and waive those that are hurting IMMEDIATELY, and work with Congress, BP and other companies to encourage and facilitate brainpower worldwide that is knowledgeable about this environment and this type of operation ... the goal to be enabling the best experts in the world to all be working on this unprecedented occurrence. Sign executive orders saying that anything done by BP in good faith from now on will be free of legal and fiscal responsibility if it fails! This should have been done a full month ago. The NEED for this was obvious a full month ago. Instead, BP has had to very carefully choose the limited number of outside experts due to concerns about litigation, “intellectual property” rights, patent infringements, etc. CLEARLY the defensive way that BP has had to act may have serve to delay or possibly even destroy the best ways to deal with this. Not only did they fail to do that, the STUPID FEDs even went so far as to REMOVE one of their OWN initially chosen experts from a panel because he happens to have written things that homosexuals don’t like! This makes sense? Do you think it makes sense that BP has been forced to be coy about information and associations cause of legal considerations? “Regulatory considerations? This was the time for LEADERS in DC to come together... instead we have lots of environuts and ambulance chasers and political opportunists running around doing things to delay and deter.
5. CONGRATULATE and ACKNOWLEDGE all the effort that BP has been making tirelessly ... advertise that they have been working hard and that they are one of the BEST in the world to be working on this. I know lots of people want to point out “safety violations”, etc... but this is the time to acknowledge and advertise their EXPERTS are among the BEST. It also wouldn’t have hurt if the Feds would let people know in strong and loud terms that this discovery BP is working on exploiting is a MAJOR find, that could ITSELF reduce by 5% the US’ daily oil imports! BP can’t do that now because it would sound too whiney, but the Feds should be saying that! The spill is huge and terrible, but the news here is not all bad!
6. GET OUT OF BP’s WAY - and facilitate their operations instead of doing stupid things like BANNING BP from using APPROVED DISPERSANTS! THen when BP says to the EPA, what do you want us to use ? what is less toxic and more effective ? watching the EPA say sheepishly “dunno”... After all, ALL of those chemicals on the list were “approved” ... they ALL have been deemed able to be used. But when BP actually USES them to HELP SAVE THE COASTS, the DUMB FEDS get in the way! Grandstanding by Politicians, Bureaucrats, Environuts, Ambulance Chasers, etc... yet again!
7. LOCATE THE FIRE BOOMS that the US purchased since 1994 and get them in action! Well - that should have been done over a month ago. I suspect strongly that “someone” in Obama’s adminstration knows very well where they are ... that Soros got them for Brazil and other of his oil interests abroad. (Brazil was not sold booms, yet they have them. US WAS sold booms, but the Coast Guard couldn’t find them - thus the “Delay” of the “burning test” that was in the news a month ago. I wonder where our booms are? I guess that Brazil is loaning us some. I bet that Chavez has not.)
I don’t want to take the time to go on but you get the drift there are clearly things you must admit that the FEDS have not done what they could and should have done. MOST of that is “executive branch” stuff - therefore OBAMAs responsibility.
Much of the above is simply politician crapola. Much is a result of Obama’s absolutely incompetent choices for cabinet and other appointments. “Science Adviser” and “Energy adviser” etc... LOOK AT THE LACK OF REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/02/obama-green-team-stephen-chu-secretary-of-energy.php
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/03/obama-science-dream-team.php
http://www.whrc.org/pressroom/press_releases/PR-2008-12-19-Holdren-Obama.htm
The Obama Administration has FAR LESS real world expertise than almost EVERY other adminstration in the history of this country! It is no wonder that they are so incompetent when it comes to REAL WORLD PROBLEMS. The BLAME for this lies SOLELY at the top of the executive branch - Obama.
If you don’t see what Obama should have done differently, go back to sucking your thumb and voting yes for fools.
You are sooooo right. Brilliant!
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