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CA Senate Race: Fiorina Up Big? (Hints Fiorina Rocketing FTW)
Weekly Standard ^ | May 24, 2010 | Daniel Halper

Posted on 05/24/2010 3:47:39 PM PDT by red flanker

Can this be for real? From Carly Fiorina's Twitter feed:

@CarlyforCA Breaking news: Fiorina 46%, Campbell 23%, DeVore 14% according to new Survey USA poll. Proof that hard work pays off!

This, I'm told by the Fiorina campaign, was just reported on television on L.A. The last SurveyUSA poll showed Fiorina trailing Campbell 35% to 24%, with DeVore in third at 15%. So, if true, this new poll would represent a huge swing--such a huge swing that I'm curious to see the actual poll.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: boguspoll; bullshitpoll; ca2010; campbell; devore; fiorina; propaganda; rino; surveyusa
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To: VictoryGal

Yep. Obligation can get her some slack for supporting RINO Juan McAmnesty over conservative JD Hayworth. But when she chooses Fiorina over DeVore she hasn’t got the excuse that she owes Carly anything. It looks like nothing other than hack GOP politics without principle.


181 posted on 05/24/2010 7:47:32 PM PDT by Pelham (without Deporting 20 million illegals, border control is meaningless.)
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To: DoughtyOne

With all due respect, it would be unlikely for someone running as a moderate in a statewide race in California to lie about being pro-life and pro-gun (I’ll give you that lying about being pro-marriage would be a smart move). And Carly Fiorina doesn’t go around bragging about her socially conservative positions, but downplays them so as not to turn the election into a referendum on abortion and guns (one that, unfortunately, we would likely lose), which is consistent with someone who holds those conservative positions but is being told by handlers not to emphasize them.


182 posted on 05/24/2010 7:52:25 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

To answer your 2nd question better: I looked up her FEC filings. I don’t see any contributions to IMP-PAC by McMahon, but I do contributions to Republican Majority for Choice, and the Republican Leadership Council, which has considerable ties to IMP-PAC. And of course, there’s those large contributions to Rahm Emmanuel and his PAC.


183 posted on 05/24/2010 7:53:11 PM PDT by dangus
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To: RightOnTheBorder

because many there are republicans not conservatives.


184 posted on 05/24/2010 7:53:17 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: bigbob

isn’t she liberal on social issues like homosexual agenda , abortion?


185 posted on 05/24/2010 7:54:06 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: counterpunch

agreed
I’m sick to death of people or a party saying look we got a woman or a back person or hispanic for the job , I want a person who is qualified for the job regardless


186 posted on 05/24/2010 7:56:11 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: dangus; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clintonfatigued

I just looked it up, and I remembered correctly:

MCMAHON, LINDA
GREENWICH,CT 06831 WWE INC./CEO 9/25/06 $1,500 Its My Party Too PAC

She also donated to a couple of PACs whose names sound like euphemisms for “pro-abortion” (two of which are openly pro-Democrat):

MCMAHON, LINDA
GREENWICH,CT 06831 WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION/CEO 9/16/07 $2,500 Our Common Values PAC (D)

MCMAHON, LINDA E
GREENWICH,CT 06831 WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT INC./ 5/22/06 $5,000 Forward Together PAC (D)

MCMAHON, LINDA
GREENWICH,CT 06831 SELF/CANDIDATE FOR U.S. SENATE 11/17/09 $5,000 Every Republican is Crucial PAC (R)

http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?name=McMahon&state=CT&zip=&employ=&cand=&all=Y&sort=N&capcode=xyn4w&submit=Submit

And $10,000 to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee just five weeks prior to the DCCC managing to defeat Congressman Rob Simmons (Linda’s main primary opponent this year) by just 83 votes? Unseemly is the least of it.

MCMAHON, LINDA E
GREENWICH,CT 06831 WORLD WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT INC./ 9/29/06 $10,000 Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte (D)

Alas, Rob Simmons has called a press conference for tomorrow to discuss the future of his campaign, and it is rumored that he will announce that he is dropping out of the primary.


187 posted on 05/24/2010 8:10:38 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: GregH
You sound like someone from socialist international.
No, I sound like someone who knows how political campaigns play out.
The sort of willfull naiveté you display is exactly what will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory for the GOP.
As I said, being a job killing corporate CEO is NOT an asset in ANY race, much less in California, let alone in the middle of a deep economic recession and record unemployment.

Attack the messenger all you want, but it's not going to help us defeat Boxer.
Fiorina's campaign is DOA in CA before it even begins.
Mark my word. I know my state and its politics.
 
188 posted on 05/24/2010 8:11:20 PM PDT by counterpunch (GOP: Government's Other Party)
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To: VictoryGal

I seriously doubt that Boxer would rather run against the moderate-to-conservative female cancer survivor who can write a check for tens of millions of dollars than against a RINO and an archconservative who won’t be able to raise any money.


189 posted on 05/24/2010 8:13:49 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: SmokingJoe
Campbell must be defeated at all costs.

Yep.
Liberal Republicans must NEVER be rewarded.

Personally, I'd rather be stabbed in the face than stabbed in the back.
I can't say I'm sold on Fiorina, but she is absolutely preferable to Campbell.

190 posted on 05/24/2010 8:15:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: manc

“isn’t she liberal on social issues like homosexual agenda , abortion?”


Who, Carly Fiorina? No. She’s openly pro-life and anti-same-sex-marriage. You must be confusing her with Tom Campbell (who is pro-partial-birth-abortion and pro-same-sex-marriage).


191 posted on 05/24/2010 8:16:04 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: presently no screen name
Yep.

btw, I really messed up here, so I'm heading out.....

192 posted on 05/24/2010 8:17:38 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Paying $10,000 to defeat that DIABLO Simmons was or would have been money well spent! 2nd worst Republican in Congress; more liberal than over 100 Democrats. Please, God, pleeeeease let Schiff win, somehow!


193 posted on 05/24/2010 8:23:01 PM PDT by dangus
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To: AuH2ORepublican; AuntB; DoughtyOne; Bokababe; dcwusmc; sickoflibs; Jim Robinson
So, no, Carly Fiorina is no Susan Collins or Olympia Snowe: she’s more of a Liddy Dole.

No, she's a McCain acolyte, and only God knows that we don't need more of those sorts on Capitol Hill.

Given that DeVore has never come close to the 33% minimum he would need to win the primary, I think that we all need to support Carly Fiorina.

Wrong.

Prior to Campbell's entry into the race, DeVore polled even with Fiorina at 27 percent in a Nov. 2009 Los Angeles Times poll (source) with 40 percent undecided at the time.

With the 20+ percent undecided in nearly every poll (source) over the past few months, I would say that DeVore still has a reasonable chance of beating both Campbell and Fiorina, and I find it deeply deplorable that folks like yourself (and unfortunately, Palin, though one could argue that she has been corrupted by McCain's people) are so willing to abandon DeVore (whom McClintock--a man viewed favorably by conservatives and conservative-leaning libertarians--has endorsed) at this stage of the game...and for naught but mere "electability" (i.e., political expediency).

This year is the year of the Tea Party.

If we can't elect conservatives and libertarians this year, then we can't elect them, period.

Chuck DeVore is the real conservative in the Republican primary for the contested U.S. Senate seat from the State of California.

Fiorina and Campbell are both egregious RINOs, and any so-called "conservative" who is eager and willing to surrender to them at this stage in the game is either a RINO himself (or herself) or a coward.

194 posted on 05/24/2010 8:26:10 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

“Chuck DeVore is the real conservative in the Republican primary for the contested U.S. Senate seat from the State of California.

Fiorina and Campbell are both egregious RINOs, and any so-called “conservative” who is eager and willing to surrender to them at this stage in the game is either a RINO himself (or herself) or a coward.”

BTT


195 posted on 05/24/2010 8:39:53 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: counterpunch

I also know CA very well as it is my home state.

I know exactly what type of Republicans can win here.

Fiorina can win and DeVore cannot.

CA voters are more attracted towards people with private sector business experience than career politician types.


196 posted on 05/24/2010 8:44:42 PM PDT by GregH
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To: TJC
This is not Idaho it is California, the second most liberal / socialist state in the unit.

We heard the exact same arguments in 2003, in favor of Schwarzenegger.

How'd that work out?

197 posted on 05/24/2010 8:47:06 PM PDT by B Knotts (Impeach Obama)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

FWIW, I think that this is a probably a preemptive strike against DeVore, in the nature of a push-poll.

In related questions, I wonder how many people are out there confusing computer-moneyed ‘Pubbie woman Carly Fiorina and computer-moneyed ‘Pubbie woman Meg Whitman?


198 posted on 05/24/2010 8:47:55 PM PDT by mrreaganaut (In practice, the 'social gospel' always violates the commandments against stealing and coveting.)
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To: dangus

Rob Simmons represented the most heavily Democrat district in the country held by a Republican (with only Leach’s IA-02 coming close), and was a solid vote on national security and economic issues. Yes, he was (and is) a liberal on social issues, and, most egregiously, voted against the ban on partial-birth abortion. But you must admit that Joe Courtney has been much worse, though.

There is no excuse for donating $10,000 to the DCCC. Rob Simmons would have never done that.


199 posted on 05/24/2010 9:05:25 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Rabscuttle, you do realize that (i) guilt by association is no way to judge a candidate and (ii) a senator with John McCain’s voting record would be TERRIFIC for a state like California, right? McCain is too liberal for AZ, but it would be a huge coup to elect someone like him in CA.

As for DeVore, I supported him over Fiorina before Campbell entered the race (although, in all honesty, I was hoping that more prominent conservatives such as McClintock or Issa would enter the race), since I would rather send the 100% conservative into battle (and at the time I was under the mistaken impression that Fiorina was neither pro-life nor pro-gun). But with the RINO Campbell jumping in and making it a two-person race between him and Fiorina in poll after poll after poll, with DeVore not coming close to winning, I’m supporting Fiorina as the only non-RINO who can beat Campbell in the primary.

BTW, I haven’t said that DeVore was unelectable against Boxer, just that he’s not going to win the primary and if conservatives split their vote between Fiorina and DeVore that Campbell will win. But, since you mention “electability,” I must say that it would be easier for Fiorina than for DeVore to beat Boxer given Fiorina’s (i) profile, (ii) issue positions and (iii) money (the third being the most important.

If Fiorina was a RINO, I would support DeVore no matter what, but that is not the case. Fiorina is an acceptable candidate (if elected, she would probably be the most conservative U.S. Senator from California in over 50 years), and she has a realistic chance of winning the primary, so I will support her in order to keep Campbell from winning. And, believe me, Boxer is not looking forward to facing Fiorina in the general.


200 posted on 05/24/2010 9:18:56 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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