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Baby Gap: Germany's Birth Rate Hits Historic Low
Time ^ | May 23, 2010 | Tristana Moore

Posted on 05/23/2010 4:27:15 PM PDT by C19fan

Germany is shrinking — and fast. New figures released on May 17 show the birth rate in Europe's biggest economy has plummeted to a historic low, dropping to a level not seen since 1946. As demographers warn of the consequences of not making enough babies to replace and support an ageing population, the latest figures have triggered a bout of national soul-searching and cast a harsh light on Chancellor Angela Merkel's family policies.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany
KEYWORDS: birth; birthrate; deathofthewest; germany; population
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To: DonaldC
That is a modern/western perspective, but families were stronger when the younger did help care for the older.

FAMILIES, not the government. And normally this was done by younger family members who were currently enjoying economic, concrete, and intellectual capital that had been amassed by the now-elderly family members. The house was owned free and clear (long since paid for, if not actually built by hand) by the now-elderly, the many acres of farmland and pasture had already been cleared and made productive by the now-elderly, the wealth of knowledge and experience re how to maximize production had been passed on by the now-elderly to the younger generation, giving the younger generation sufficient resources to spend time and money/goods caring for the elderly. The elderly had pre-paid for their own old-age care.

21 posted on 05/23/2010 5:18:30 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: C19fan

Any German Freepers out there? You need to get busy! ;-)


22 posted on 05/23/2010 5:22:31 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: BobL
Also note that cultures that did not and have not participated in this social engineering experiment decades ago (i.e., Islamic countries) do not have the population issues that we are dealing with.

Note that many of us do not regard the current culture of Islamic societies as something we'd like our own societies to resemble. A teeming population is a huge cultural and political burden, and tends to promote ideologies which appeal to frustrated young adults who see no realistic hope of a bright future. The ethnically native populations of Western societies may have low birth rates, but precious few of the children we do have are susceptible to suggestions that blowing themselves up for Allah (or for anything else) would be their best course of action.

The days of endless frontiers of habitable, arable land, providing a bright future for as many fledgling adults as the previous generation could churn out, are long gone and not coming back. And anytime the rate of population growth outpaces the rate of economic growth, big trouble lies ahead.

23 posted on 05/23/2010 5:26:24 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: donhunt

LOLOLOL!!

I once saw the following on a T-shirt in California:

Sex - give until you’re tired.


24 posted on 05/23/2010 5:27:25 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: truthguy
America Alone: The End of the World As We Know It

Read it and weep.
25 posted on 05/23/2010 5:28:59 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Kozak
Read it and weep.

Read it over a year ago and gave copies to many of my friends. I'm a big Mark Steyn fan.

I'm out of tears after Nov 2008.
26 posted on 05/23/2010 5:31:31 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

“Note that many of us do not regard the current culture of Islamic societies as something we’d like our own societies to resemble. “

I used them as an example, and you FULL WELL know that.

Anyway feel free to push your “Death to West” agenda (by depopulating us while our enemies do not), but I don’t have to respond to it.


27 posted on 05/23/2010 5:32:29 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Star Traveler
“and the U.S. will be taken over by Muslims “

And illegal alien Mexicans and Central Americans.

The 12 million illegals in the US is a lie and a joke. There's more like 20 to 30 million. Not to mention all the other millions that were already here.

Between the treasonous, leftist, Dim Dhim America haters, the so called “main stream media”, Hollywood and the universities, America and freedom is disappearing right under our feet.

28 posted on 05/23/2010 5:38:37 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: garyhope

Illegal aliens may be on the minds of everyone now, but it’s the Muslims who will control this country and not the Mexicans or South Americans ... see the Demographics video ...


29 posted on 05/23/2010 5:41:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: BobL

So kindly show me an example of a society that currently has rapid population growth, and is currently politically and economically stable and not a hotbed of terrorism or communist insurgency.


30 posted on 05/23/2010 5:43:53 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

They are only worried about not enough kids to pay off banksters debts. Much like the Kaiser used to worry about having enough males to kill off on battle fields for what ever elitist notions he had. Humans as resource digits. Integers. Statistics.


31 posted on 05/23/2010 5:44:08 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: GovernmentShrinker

“So kindly show me an example of a society that currently has rapid population growth, and is currently politically and economically stable and not a hotbed of terrorism or communist insurgency.”

Name a country that has given in to the SOCIAL ENGINEERING of feminism that IS NOT going through a population crash - and cheating by allowing unfriendly immigrants doesn’t count.


32 posted on 05/23/2010 5:48:16 PM PDT by BobL
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I don’t know...maybe it’s just because I have kids and I don’t want to them have to live in a country and a world overrun with people that are basically barbarian - which HAS TO HAPPEN unless DRASTIC steps are taken (either make more babies here, or delete lots of theirs).

And I am willing to do what is necessary to reverse the past social engineering...even if it looks like sacrificing conservative values.


33 posted on 05/23/2010 5:53:00 PM PDT by BobL
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To: SatinDoll; C19fan; truthguy
The decline in birth rate is not just in Germany but is now in most countries including the U.S. To get a better understanding of the issues that we are now starting to face and the main reasons why Germans and others are not having babies I would advice viewing the DVD “Demographic Winter” and the follow up “Demographic Bomb”. Both are very interesting and point out how the economy is going to be in trouble for a while because of the declining birth rates. Unfortunately it appears that most people do not see the advantages of having children...Scripture calls children a blessing while most people today call children a financial burden...what a shame.
34 posted on 05/23/2010 5:53:53 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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To: SatinDoll

Add to this a profound pessimism resulting from the two wars, and the traditional passivity of the Germans. Voluntarism, which is in the American DNA, is alien to the Germans, who leave politics to the professionals.


35 posted on 05/23/2010 5:54:32 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Star Traveler
Illegal aliens may be on the minds of everyone now, but it’s the Muslims who will control this country and not the Mexicans or South Americans ... see the Demographics video ...

Agreed. Muslims are the real threat here. Not Mexicans.

36 posted on 05/23/2010 5:56:13 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: C19fan

More rubbish about how this are not enough “social services.”

German culture now has ingested socialism, materialism, PC guilt, white angst and multiculteralism. The message is - why should there be a next generation?


37 posted on 05/23/2010 5:57:13 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: truthguy

“I’m out of tears after Nov 2008.”

You and me both.


38 posted on 05/23/2010 6:01:52 PM PDT by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now, courtesy of Islam.)
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To: C19fan

When will they realize that the Muslims are taking over and that they must have children to offset that?


39 posted on 05/23/2010 6:02:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BobL

Well, after you deduct the illegal and/or unfriendly immigrants, the U.S. population is stable, not “crashing”. And a stable population works just fine until the pyramid schemes of socialism are introduced, including the pyramid scheme of promising all sorts of old-age benefits on the assumption that a greatly increased population of younger people will fund it when payout time arrives.

New Zealand is an example of a country with stable population — birth rate is at perfect replacement level of 2.1 per woman (obviously representing high rates of conraceptive use), and immigration rates are relatively low, and significantly offset by emigration rates (mainly to Australia and the UK). It is economically, politically, and socially stable.


40 posted on 05/23/2010 6:07:34 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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