Posted on 05/14/2010 4:43:29 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
On the Propositions:
Prop. 13. Seismic Retrofits. YES: Earthquake proofing your house shouldnt trigger a tax increase until youre ready to sell. Any questions?
Prop. 14. Distorted Primary. NO: This was the result of the corrupt deal for the tax increase engineered by Abel Maldonado that included this measure to by-pass party primaries in a manner Maldonado believed would enhance his future election prospects. Instead of voters of each party putting their best candidate forward, this jerry-rigged system is designed to disguise the difference between the parties and force those pesky third parties off the general election ballot entirely.
Prop. 15. Taxpayer Funded Elections. NO: The real purpose of this measure is to allow the legislature to tap taxpayers to finance political campaigns. Jefferson said it best: To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Prop. 16. Utility Elections. YES: Cash-guzzling city governments have been taking over the territory of utilities through eminent domain and PG&E wants to put it to a vote. This measure gives you the choice upon whose mercy your future electricity bills will depend: the monopoly of city hall or the monopoly of your utility. Heres a better idea: restore the freedom of individual consumers to choose among competing providers who actually have to earn their business. Alas, that part was left out by the suits at PG&E.
Prop. 17. Insurance Rates. YES: A simple question: should drivers be able to take their continuous coverage discount with them when they change insurance companies? A simpler question: why are our laws such a micro managing mess that we have to vote on something as self-evident as this in the first place?
On the statewide races:
For Governor, Steve Poizner: Steve had the courage to support Arizonas decision to enforce our immigration laws when Meg Whitman cut and ran. He opposes the bank bailouts, rampant borrowing and environmental extremism that Meg Whitman embraces. And unlike Whitman, Steve Poizner was never a huge fan of radical leftist Van Jones. This time, lets have a governor from the Republican wing of the Republican Party.
For Lt. Governor, Sam Aanestad: Sam was my seatmate for many years in both the Assembly and the Senate. He never wavered from his devotion to Republican principles of limited government. Abel Maldonado broke his signed taxpayer pledge and bears responsibility not only for the biggest tax increase in Californias history, but also the budgets that ran California off the fiscal cliff. No single race on the ballot more clearly defines the difference between the Party of Reagan and the Party of Schwarzenegger.
For Attorney General, John Eastman: I worked with John Eastman at the Claremont Institute a public policy think tank devoted to restoring American founding principles to the public policy debate. John is a nationally renowned Constitutional advocate and scholar whose leadership is desperately needed in the Attorney Generals office. Imagine having an Attorney General who not only respects the Constitution but who understands and reveres it.
For Insurance Commissioner, Anybody But Villines. Mike Villines was another of the sell-out Republican votes on the massive tax increase that crushed what was left of our states economy last year, after signing a no-new-taxes pledge. Liars dont belong in government.
For U.S. Senate, Chuck DeVore: Chuck is a conservatives conservative who has always stood on principle, even when it has meant standing virtually alone. Ive never heard him give a speech without thinking I wish Id said that. I rank him up there with Sam Aanestad as one of the finest people Ive had the opportunity to serve with in the legislature. He would become an instant leader in the United States Senate.
“Here’s a hint:
People who call her an Enemy of the USA, Whore, Stupid, Less coherent than a monkey, Airhead, Failed mother, etc. are likely candidates to be classified as haters.
It’s really not that difficult to decipher.”
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Really? It took you another post to clarify what you meant. If you want to make it easier for us to decipher what you mean, perhaps you shouldn’t make broad sweeping generalizations about Palin haters at the end of a list that includes *many* comments that could never even approach such.
You sound like a moronic liberal when you call pople who disagree with you “haters”. In fact I ‘m really starting to think you’re a liberal troll just out to divide conservatives.
Can't we get through one damn thread without Sarah's name coming up? The only way Sarah relates to this at all is that she endorsed Fiorina and Tom McClintock doesn't. There, that's it.
S.O.S. -- guilty -- Sick of Sarah!
I find it rather disquieting — although darkly humorous, considering the state our nation and the world is in at this latter day — that some Conservatives find great sport in crucifying their fellows because they don’t agree with them on every single issue — or endorsement.
Obviously Sarah is a RINO, she endorsed John McCain AND Carly Fiorina! FOR SHAME! Well, no, I didn’t like either of those endorsements either, But does that somehow make her “the enemy?” Does that mean she’s “not a true Conservative?” Give me a break!
In 1986, Ronald Reagan signed into law a tax reform act that was supposed to further simplify the income tax brackets, increase “user fees” for Federal services and parks, consolidate and lower most peoples taxes and INCREASE corporate income taxes. This plan also multiplied the “Earned Income Tax Credit,” This policy change alone raised the lowest wages that could be taxed at the time from $5720 to $29750, and by the late 1990’s the EITC alone was credited with lifting 4.3 million Americans a year out of poverty. Al Hunt, Liberal columnist for the Wall Street Journal called this “the most important anti-poverty measure enacted over the past decade,” at the time.
The fact is, the EITC now makes it possible for nearly half of the people in our country NOT to pay taxes — and many get money they DID NOT PAY and DO NOT EARN “credited” back to them! As to the “corporate taxes” that were raised, I remember my Dad telling me at the time — Reagan must be losing his mind. First, never make a deal with the Democrats (who promised to cut the budget to get the deal — they lied of course); Second, corporations DON’T pay taxes, consumers pay taxes. The customers pay in raised prices, or the employees pay in lay-offs and pink slips...and thus came the 1991-1992 recession, helped along by G.H.W. Bush’s inane tax increase — again, by trusting the SAME Democrats Reagan had trusted.
Throwinto that mix that Reagan extended AMNESTY to over 2 million illegals around the same time WITH PROMISES from the Democrat Congress that they would stop the flow — yet ANOTHER promise they never kept — and one MIGHT think Ronaldus Magnus himself was not a Conservative. That he could not be trusted. That he was not to be believed. That he was a plant....
Please. So, we see Sarah Palin is HUMAN. She makes decisions we DON’T agree with sometimes. Okay. I get it. That doesn’t mean she’s NOT Conservative. She’s just HUMAN. Imperfect. I trust her — though I am glad she has 2-3 years to make a few mistakes BEFORE she has to decide if the Presidency is where God wants her to be. And if that’s what SHE thinks, I’ll be willing to prayerfully CONSIDER her — frankly, to me, she still has an inside track.
Although Chris Christie is looking better and better... And if Jim DeMint could be talked into running....
Redundant, since Arnold himself is clearly a DIABLO at this point and even his formerly staunchest defenders in the GOP won't dare defend him.
“Its the absolutely absurd if you endorse a RINO, you are a RINO crap that is absolutely insane.”
I agree. I will still support Sarah Palin, if she really starts busting out in the 2012 scene. I personally support Jim DeMint or Paul Ryan, but am not opposed to Palin either. Like many conservatives, I didn’t like Palin’s Fiorina endorsement at a critical time, but it may not matter, leading me to think that she could have easily stayed out of that one.
“First, never make a deal with the Democrats”
It’s taken us about 50 years to learn this one vital lesson. We may be finally there. And we desperately need to be there, as the RATS are close to detroying our once great nation.
I certainly won't judge any of those on that list for endorsing RINOs. Hell, DeMint's absolute fawning endorsement of Romney in 2007 is worthy enough for me to puke for decades to come! But DeMint's record is pretty darn solid. And his actions speak far louder than his words. If he's in the mix (and Sarah isn't), I'll support him without question. The same with Ryan.
I'm at a loss.
Many on this forum criticized the angry little man freely, post primary. Others voted for the Vice Presidential candidate, hoping her ideology would alter his actions. The lack of support from the right doomed the campaigned and was almost axiomatic.
Shrub won his first term with plurality support from the 15% on the right. More a gift from the ineptitude of the Tennessee trotter than support from compassionate conservatives. By scrub's second term, dissent was growing. Had it not been for 911, his legacy would have been brutal. As it was, his decisions that emanated from the events of mid-September 2007 separated him from any remaining, significant support on the right and had a dramatic effect on his party in the 2010 election cycle. He and his party simply could not outrun the economic destruction TARP husbanded.
“Are you sick of her because of those endorsements as well?”
You can understand why people here are leery of the Republican establishment, and why we’re so keen that Sarah not become another member of that club, right?
Oh, and I’m not sick of Sarah - bring it on...and many others like her, or better! Let’s do a little overwhelming of the system ourselves! As a base, we need to keep Sarah honest - heck we all need to be kept honest, right?
These are your definitions, not mine.
“That you for being rational and realistic.”
Sometimes the tone gets snide and snippy around here. We’re all battle worn. Let’s support and encourage each other to be better, Sarah, DeMint, Ryan included. We can disagree with class. I don’t agree with being course and snide and calling good people names. Sarah’s not perfect - but she’s one of the good ones. That’s what I think about my own mother for goodness sake.
No one is perfect. We can disagree on strategy or observations with class. That’ll prevent a lot of the sniping that happens with the purists and the vote for any “R” sides of this debate.
I like to ask the purists - so how do you intend to take back the WH in 2012 - but you know sometimes we’ve got to start somewhere (like in the primaries) and then roll off and make tough choices.
This isn’t a fun easy road for any of use - watching our great nation groveling in the gutter Chicago politics. We can certainly agree that our GREAT ENEMY is the socialist RATS - right?
Let’s keep that front and center as we charge forward.
Let’s not shoot our wounded!
Best to you all as you fight for the right and the good.
SeattleBruce
If you are referring to President G.W. Bush, please show some respect. I didn't agree with him on every issue, but he certainly cared about this Country unlike the Usurper we have today.
“ideological utopia”
FR serves as a place to talk about political philosophy, political ideology, like few other boards I’ve ever encountered, and that from a conservative stance.
But we all also go out and get involved and give and vote wisely, as much as we’re able to discern the best way to do that. That’s where the rubber meets the road.
I think it gets back to the whole concept of perfection. And man, FR is NOT perfect!!! And I say that lovingly. ;)
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