Posted on 05/12/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by curiosity
The origin of modern myths and legends is a side interest of mine, the birther myths among them.
Now I understand why Obama being born in Kenya made it into your belief system, despite it being physically impluasible (requiring around 5 days and five flights, most on propeller planes) and financially impossible (it would have cost about a year of her parents' combined salaries) for Stanley Ann & Obama Sr. to travel there for her to give birth. After all, Obama's Father was from Kenya, so if you are going to make up a myth about Obama being born abroad, what better place than Kenya?
Implausibilty, and even impossiblilty doesn't deter the making of myths if there is a strong emotional reason to believe them, as in this case.
What I don't understand is, of all possible places in Kenya, why make Mombassa the birthplace in your myth? If you look at the map of Kenya, it's on the other end of the country from Obama Sr.'s village, 762 miles away, which would make it a minimum 2 day train ride. Probably longer, since Kenyan trains were very fast in 1961.
I suppose you could argue that there were no hospitals in Obama's village, so they had to travel to a major city. But Nairobi was closer, and more modern.
So why Mombassa? Not only is it completely implausible; I don't see the emotional appeal. Why Mombasssa rather than his father's village? Or why Mombassa rather than Nairobi?
Help me out here, birthers. Why do you reserve this special place for Mombassa in your belief system?
You stated that he made false claims, about something which you know absolutely nothing about.
Okay smart guy, if they were so poor, how did they afford Stanley’s education, in Washington, in Hawaii, and everywhere else??? Furthermore how was Obama Sr.’s education financed all over the world living in grass huts???
You seem to be just full of contradictions today.
You were obsessed with Ron Polarik, as you sought to cover for your affirmative action bastard in the Oval Office. Now, you seek to slime Race Bannon in your sycophantic kneepaddery. You're a sick little man. Get help.
“It also cost me $100.”
At least it went to a good cause.
That's what you think I'm wrong about? You think Race really did name the Tamil Tigers? And that it's unfair to call that claim false?
He claims to have done so several years after they were actually calling themselves the Tigers. Hence, false.
But hey, if you want to believe that Race is a real-life Forrest Gump, meeting and getting confessions from future Presidents and inspiring foreign militias, I can't stop you from believing him.
In one post, you call me an “obsessive little commie worm,” “obamanoid,” “a sick little man,” and you accuse me of obsession and “sycophantic kneepaddery.” And then you suggest that *I* need help. Stay classy.
And if you think I’m sliming Race, I apologize. It’s not my fault if stating the truth about someone and providing links to evidence those statements is something you consider “sliming.”
uhh, this is pretty much the same as any state. To get certified state documents, you must have id and proof of identity and fees. I can get my own documents in Maryland if I want this way. I am sure the procedure is the same in almost all states.
This is not saying the state of Hawaii will whip up a falsified birth certificate for someone who wasn’t born there-—while also providing false information-—date, time and place information that is not documented by the state records.
Maybe she flew there for the creature comforts...
Or maybe you are right, she flew there because The British had a first class hospital there for their citizens.
Random speculation: the last resort of the person with no actual evidence.
Jim, this is the sort of leftist scum who are transforming FreeRepublic.com
Tom Mboya.....
Obama Senior's political patron,
you know the guy that sent him on a solo trip to the US,
the man Obama himself calls his Godfather!
Obama Senior returned to Mombasa with his pregnant wife in tow to meet with his leader about going to Harvard.
Putting aside the new random speculation about the motive for a Kenyan trip, what does Tom Mboya have to do with the city of Mombasa?
Why? A country that had a modern International airport in 1961 with regular flights coming going. And when statements from credible sources pop up all the time like this one below from a Kenyan Minister that said Obama was born in Kenya that cannot be BS'd away:
Unwarranted secrecy breeds speculation.
So how are your after-Birther buddies doing over at Politijab.com? Still playing kiss and tell?
Surely, you're not admitting Hawaii has a history of lying?!? The laws in obtaining such haven't changed but yeah, my bad, I mean, anything that's so old and all shouldn't be relevant today. Duuude, that was sooo last century and the Constitution is, like, hey whoa, two centuries old, so duh, why even bother with it.
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I was under the impression that Mombasa's Moi Airport did not go international until 1979. I haven't found anything that says otherwise. If I'm wrong, I'm happy to look at a contrary source.
And when statements from credible sources pop up all the time like this one below from a Kenyan Minister that said Obama was born in Kenya that cannot be BS'd away:
So to be clear: some official in Kenya, who's probably never even met Obama or any of his family members, says offhand that Obama was born in Kenya, and that's a credible source on Obama's birthplace?
I mean, I'm sure he's a swell and upstanding guy, but what reason is there to think that he knows the secret truth about Obama's birthplace? Later in the same meeting, one of the speakers said that the US has 51 states; is he credible on that point too?
So, you agree truth has been kept a secret. Not becoming a birther, now, are you?
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