So, from these words I would say that yes they were able to afford to go to Kenya around his birth time.
Posted on 05/12/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by curiosity
The origin of modern myths and legends is a side interest of mine, the birther myths among them.
Now I understand why Obama being born in Kenya made it into your belief system, despite it being physically impluasible (requiring around 5 days and five flights, most on propeller planes) and financially impossible (it would have cost about a year of her parents' combined salaries) for Stanley Ann & Obama Sr. to travel there for her to give birth. After all, Obama's Father was from Kenya, so if you are going to make up a myth about Obama being born abroad, what better place than Kenya?
Implausibilty, and even impossiblilty doesn't deter the making of myths if there is a strong emotional reason to believe them, as in this case.
What I don't understand is, of all possible places in Kenya, why make Mombassa the birthplace in your myth? If you look at the map of Kenya, it's on the other end of the country from Obama Sr.'s village, 762 miles away, which would make it a minimum 2 day train ride. Probably longer, since Kenyan trains were very fast in 1961.
I suppose you could argue that there were no hospitals in Obama's village, so they had to travel to a major city. But Nairobi was closer, and more modern.
So why Mombassa? Not only is it completely implausible; I don't see the emotional appeal. Why Mombasssa rather than his father's village? Or why Mombassa rather than Nairobi?
Help me out here, birthers. Why do you reserve this special place for Mombassa in your belief system?
you guys sound like the people on the web a few years ago arguing about how the WTC building 7 fell even though it wasn’t hit by a plane on 9-11 and how a plane wouldn’t cause a building to collapse like that...etc etc
Curiosity:
From your “about” page:
“let’s focus our energy on attacking him for legitimate reasons, like his attempted government takeover of health care, his borderline treasonous decision to try KSM in a civilian court, and his attempt to destroy our economy via cap and trade. These are real issues we can win on. The birther nonsense makes us look like nuts. “
One might define another as nuts to not support Cap and Trade. Is after all designed to reduce CO2 emissions and clean up the air. But isn’t it nuts to not want clean air?
Isn’t it nuts to not want healthcare for all?
Really? Gotta make some calls
” For a non story there sure is a lot of it being presented in the media these days. “
Anderson Cooper 360 had a screaming meltdown discussing “ birthers “ the other night with Lt Col Lakin and his attorney.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1005/10/acd.01.html
But, in the course of his hysteria-Cooper validated that there is an unreleased birth certificate .
COOPER: .......
The Republican governor of Hawaii sent someone to personally view the birth certificate at the Department of Health, and says it’s there.
COOPER: The governor of Hawaii, a Republican, has said — and I quote —
“I had my health doctor, who is a physician by background,
go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release.”
Later , Cooper asked Roland Martin this :
COOPER: ...
So, Roland, if there is — just to play devil’s advocate here on the birther’s argument, if there is a hard copy long-form birth certificate in the records department of Hawaii that the
— the governor, the Republican governor,
of Hawaii has said she sent her physician to see, why not release that?
ROLAND MARTIN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Because they still won’t be satisfied.
The take away from Cooper’s hissy fit is that he, Roland Martin and Lakin’s attorney all agree
that there is a sealed birth certificate held by Hawaii.
However, Cooper , Martin and the other CNN panelists feel that the American people are stupid and conspiracy minded , so there’s no point in releasing it.
Vendy! You’re a provocateur!
parsy, who is not one to go around stirring up trouble.
Link?
Isn’t that the “party line”?
Which party would that be?
Most importantly, why was it so important to Barack Obama to hide any and all documentation about him that one of his very first executive orders was to seal all of his records?
For you enlightment here is a link to the EO 13489. You may wish to take a look at it’s content.
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdf
Nope. The TERRITORY did so in 1916, 45 years before Obama was born, and 43 years before Hawaii became a state.
Only in birther fantasy land would a fraud committed against the TERROTORY of Hawaii in 1916 impugn the integrity of the STATE of Hawaii's records generated in 1961.
Anthropological Phenomenon? Actually you are not very curious, please change your screen name.
Or at least use your innate curiosity to discovery what “Natural Born Citizen” means.
Use your curiosity to determine if she was old enough to pass on citizenship at the time of his birth (hint: Obama’s mother was only 18 at the time of Obama’s birth, and thereby barred - by U.S. Immigration law - from passing U.S. citizenship to her child).
Use your curiosity to discover that the statement of relating to his birth that was made by the Hawaii Official was rebutted by her boss (hint: at NO time do Hawaii state officials confirm that Obama was actually born in Hawaii).
Use your curiosity to discover why Obama has only proffered a discredited 2007 computer-generated, unsigned, “Certification of Live Birth” that is a forgery.
Use your curiosity and earn the name Mr. Curiosity. ;^)
Because they are getting paid to do so and have spent long hours crafting items like this designed to divert the weak minded.
Maybe you need to ask Roland the Thompson Gunner ...
FReeper RaceBannon. I’m sure you can find the thread(s).
I hear he really lost his head.
Only in after-birther fantasy would a fraud committed in 1961 be more difficult because the Territory was now a State. What laws were changed? How did Sun Yat Sen get his Hawaiian BC? With lying witnesses, just like someone could do in 1961.
Quote from book:
Your father wrote back saying he was going ahead with it. Then you were born and we agreed that the three of us would return to Kenya after he finished his studies. But your grandfather Hussien was still writing to your father threatening to have his student visa revoked.
End Quote
Now if Baracks father was writing to his mother and she knew that Hussein grandfather was writing to Baracks father??? Where was mother? Living in Kenya with Hussein the grandfather..... Otherwise they both would have been in Hawaii - but if both were in Hawaii, then why was Barack Sr. writing to Stanley???? Hmmmmm.... Interesting!
Seems to me that Stanley Ann was in Kenya with grandfather and had baby. Barack Sr. was in Hawaii deciding that he was going to Harvard and that they would return to Kenya after his studies. Any thoughts on this one?
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