Posted on 04/27/2010 4:35:01 PM PDT by bushpilot1
"According to the family, Obama's father travelled to America to study at the University of Hawaii in 1959.
While there, he worked for an oil company and married his second wife, a white woman, named Anna Toot, and their union produced Barack Obama Jr.
Obama's book says Obama Snr left his family in Hawaii after winning a scholarship to study in Harvard when his son was two years old.
The marriage later broke up after Anna's father opposed it, according to Mama Sarah.
"Anna's father was furious about the marriage and threatened to have Obama Snr expelled from the university. Our son sent us letters, pleading that we intervene to save the marriage," remembers Sarah."
(Excerpt) Read more at allafrica.com ...
Mecca, 25 Nov. (AKI) - The grandmother of US president Barack Obama has arrived in Saudi Arabia for the ‘Hajj’ or Islamic pilgrimage to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, a Saudi daily said on Wednesday. Sarah Obama, 87, is being accompanied by a nephew and Obama’s cousin, Omran.
On Wednesday Sarah Obama was in the valley of Mina with an African delegation, according to the Saudi daily Okaz.
Obama, the mother of the American president’s father, lives in a village in Kenya and is one of the many guests of Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud....
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/obamas-christian-grandmother-in-mecca-for-hajj.html
(Sarah isn’t obama’s grandmother, she’s one of the wives of Onyango Obama, Obama Senior’s mother was named Akumu, who ‘ran away and married a man in Tanzania’ if you can believe that...
And the man they refer to as Mzee (old man) Hussein Onyango Obama is elsewhere shown as being born in 1885, not 1870, which would have made him the unlikely age of 105 when he died...
There was a couple of blog posts about how Obama didn’t look African at all, even biracially African. But he did (according to the blog and various pictures) look very much as those from Papua New Guinea.
Obama’s birth name was other than Obama. That’s why all his early records are missing.
I believe the 1971 Christmas visit was when Obama entered the picture.
In disfavor in Kenya, his mentor assassinated, an attempt was made on Obama Sr.’s life. Drinking heavily, he was undoubtedly in need of money.
The Dunham’s flew him half way around the world, before deregulation, a very expensive proposition. It is known that the Dunham’s paid for his expenses and put him up in an apartment in the building where they lived. They also provided him with running-around money.
Obama Sr. spent most of his time drinking with his old “snack bar” buddies — featuring Neil Abercrombie, the only person on the planet to claims to have seen Anna and Senior together.
Senior described the purpose of trip as, “family business.”
I believe the “family business” was to prepare the documentation to provide provenance for Barry Soetoro so he would be able to qualify for the Punahou scholarship that he received.
I believe Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. was paid off by the Dunham’s to provide the provenance that produced Barack Hussein Obama II.
If you come across it again, let me know. Thanks.
I have some very good friends who are Iraqi Sunni Muslims. They told me, “Of course, Obama’s a Muslim.” They said this without the slightest hesitation or doubt.
No, he's only half toot......
:-)
No. I hadn't made that connection.
Thanks for that info - I’m trying to catch up with all the posts!
The State of Hawaii has damned itself now forever.
Good point ...
HI state law does not compel release of birth or marriage dates which remain protected under their privacy act. Only the vital record index of events (birth, marriage in this case) must be released for any requested name.
When a marriage index is released, both the bride and groom of that specific marriage are released together. This marriage index record is explicitly for the marriage of BHO Sr and Stanley Ann.
The person who made the request asked for all vital record indexes for “Barack Hussein Obama” intending to force release of a birth index for BHO II out of the state, if there was one. Because BHO Sr. has the same name, out popped his marriage record to Stanley Ann Dunham (as corrected). Inclusion of her name as the bride was not specified or random, but was listed specifically as being the bride of groom Barack Hussein Obama.
Any speculation that BHO Sr and Stanley Ann were not married would now seem to require a conspiracy of corruption by officials to falsify the HI state vital records.
That depends on:
1. Where he was actually born (HI or Kenya)
2. Whether his parents HI marriage was legal in Kenya
If he was born in Kenya, his Kenya citizenship hasn't expired and he may not be a US citizen.
If his parents marriage was bigamous, then the British Nationality Act of 1948 explicitly did not apply to any illegitimate children of BHO Sr. and would not make BHO II a dual citizen subject of the Queen, but only a unitary USA citizen of a single mother. Note that the clever statement released by Obama said that the BNA of 1948 “governed the status” of his children. The BNA of 1948 itself says it includes only legitimate children at birth as UK subjects.
A woman, Kezia in Kenya, claims to have been the first tribal wife of BHO Sr. Tribal marriages are legal in Kenya and bigamy was not, at least under the UK Kenya Colony law even for Muslims per Kenya Marriage Act 1902.
oooh, that’s interesting!
The website with the Okubo e-mail that I posted was a secondary archive of Leo Donofrio’s original post on his blog before he took it mostly “dark” during his Chrysler litigation. I give Leo Donofrio the highest possible marks for credibility and integrity.
It is my understanding that the HI marriage and birth indexes have been confirmed by numerous other folks and are publicly available to any FReeper making a FIOA request for HI vital record indexes who has not yet run afoul of HI’s new “vexation requester” law.
“It’s beginning to look that what is real is the very worst anyone can imagine...”
I agree. Not to worry - they will not succeed.
I do not believe they were married in Hawaii--I doubt there is any real record there--you don't set out copies of the record--publication of her U of W grade transcript may not be what you intended. But I don't have any trouble believing that they massaged the records of marriage at some later date.
I don't agree with Fred's proposition that she needed the decree for custody purposes. She had custody; even today, the mother with custody wouldn't need to come up with the decree to manage the kid's relationship with the school.
The obvious reason she wanted the divorce was that she wanted to marry someone else and did not want to commit bigamy to do so. And that is an equally plausible excuse for why Barack Sr. wouldn't marry her in Honolulu.
So if we want to look for evidence of the marriage, we need to look for a jurisdiction where more than one wife is the accepted norm.
The fact that they were going half way around the world to do it was part of the reason they waited until the semester break at the end of Fall semester the end of January to do it. There might have been other reasons they waited until February but this one fits.
I view it as a given that Obama was in fact born in Mombasa. There is way too much evidence to have much doubt about that question.
So ask yourself how she got there and when or why did she go there? If you believe the story about the missionaries seeing her denied boarding in Nairobi in July (and I do), she obviously intended to deliver in the US--why was she in Kenya in July?
Why can't they come up with any evidence that she was pregnant and in Hawaii during the spring and summer of 1961? Why can't they come up with any shred of evidence as to where she was in the period between the end of fall semester in 1960-61 and her appearance on Mercer Island?
As to his actual parentage, there is third hand testimony somewhere about a friend of Stanley Armor (her father) about the "guess who's coming to dinner" conversation that, combined with the birth in Kenya, in my mind pretty well locks in Obama Sr.
Seems to me a logical place to look for evidence of a marriage is Kenya, or maybe Ghana. It wouldn't be surprising if you didn't find a paper record--that wouldn't be unusual in that area and under the circumstances. You have to speculate what would have been on the mind of Obama's manager on this issue: Find the marriage certificate in Kenya and maybe people will ask when and how she came back and open a more detailed inquiry where she was in Hawaii between the marriage and birth? The decision to conceal the marriage location was made a long time ago--presumably as early as the date on which she filed the divorce proceeding, probably before there was sophisticated legal help managing the facts.
If you accept as a working hypothesis that they were in fact married in some kind of form proceeding, if they had done it in Hawaii or in any other Western jurisdiction, there isn't any reason to conceal the location where the act took place. It was bigamy. So what--it would have passed as a de facto marriage while Stanley Ann was alive; when both are dead, who would care?
So maybe an after the fact deliberation by his managers that caused them to lock that fact into the legend is the desire to avoid making Stanley Ann guilty of perjury. They had a marriage in Hawaii under oath from the mother, that is going to be difficult to contradict under circumstances where there are probably some reasons you don't want to get too close to the real marriage location.
Damn, these people are conniving.
“It may have been entered into the Hawaii Vital Statistic records YEARS LATER (even as a handwritten annotation) as a DIRECT result of the 1964 Divorce Documentation itself, which may have been initiated in January 1964 WITHOUT Ann Dunham actually showing a Marriage Certificate to the presiding Divorce judge, Judge King.
“With the help of her attorneys, Judge King may have accepted a Washington State Drivers License, Student ID and/or even College Transcripts showing her with the married name OBAMA in lieu of an ACTUAL Marriage Certificate.”
The release of the Obama-Dunham vital marriage index (which any person can obtain from HI under FOIA) is evidence that there is an underlying HI marriage record.
As you state, it is not an original record of a marriage. If officials have been corrupted, anything could appear in or be removed from the HI records, but that requires a conspiracy (collusion between two or more to take steps to commit an illegal act).
I do not believe that you will find contemporaneous statutory support for your speculations as to how a marriage vital record could have been created after the fact and inserted into the HI vital records.
I cannot imagine a judge ordering a vital record of a marriage to a party (Obama Sr.) to be created retroactively and inserted in the tightly administered state vital records files when that party (Obama Sr.) never made an appearance in his court to begin with!
If this were true any woman could waltz into court, claim she was divorcing you and then get the judge to retroactively create a marriage record for you for a date several years earlier without you ever appearing in court.
There is a missing page from the Obama-Dunham divorce and prime possibilities are the marriage record or Obama II’s birth record neither of which can be released under HI privacy laws to other than first degree relatives for 75 years (from memory).
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