Posted on 04/27/2010 9:29:08 AM PDT by marstegreg
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It is unlikely to be an old monastery or anything of the sort. I think general scientific consensus would be that a human would have great difficulty surviving at that altitude, and the idea that humans could have exerted the physical energy to build such a structure at such a height is considered outside the realm of possibility. (Not to mention the effort of getting wood to those heights - I don't believe trees can grow at anything near those altitudes). So they have a large wooden structure that most likely was not built on site and could not have been moved to the site by humans. That would lead one to believe it arrived at it's current placement through an unusual natural occurence (such as a flood). After that it is a leap of faith to say it is "Noah's Ark" - but it is certainly a extraordinarily unusual discovery. But unless they find a to-do list in Mrs. Noah's handwriting -smile- we are left with something extraordinarily unusual that COULD be explained by the story of The Flood. Or Martians could have dropped it there.
My money would go on The Flood explanation. -smile-
>> Except any creationist will tell you carbon dating is bunk. (Unless it supports what they want it to support - then it’s sound science.) <<
All facts are bunk, but some facts are less bunk than others....
Jesus himself could come down in a cloud and warn people and they would want scientific proof and CNN would say we were all right wing whackos that created it.
At a 12,000 foot altitude? On that utterly barren mountain?
I dunno. Sounds like an unlikely place to build a monastery, even if you wanted a remote location. The top of Mt. Ararat might as well be Mars.
I'd like to see some detailed drawings/photos of the layout of that structure to get a better sense of what it might have been.
Welcome, thanks for your understanding.
I have seen seashells in caves up high in the Rocky mountains. I wonder how they got there.
Uh huh...
Carbn dating is fine for objects younger than 50,000 years old. Beyond that it is crap.
Helen Thomas: “ahh, memories...”
Which animal was she? The Hippo?
Please.
There are people in Tibet who live at higher altitudes.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/tibet-altitude-sickness.htm
According to this article, the average Tibetan settlement is 16,000ft.
And guess what - some of them have wooden structures in their settlements.
Finally, there is no evidence that this is a “large” wooden structure. Only a series of wooden structures embedded in rock and ice that spans some area.
So I’m still not sold. It’s the Old Man of the Mountain. People see what they want to see.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/tibet-altitude-sickness.htm
Average settlement altitude in Tibet: 16,000 ft.
Facts are utterly stubborn things.
*chuckle*...clever.
LOL. I thought the same thing.
You got it. Some of the debunking comments are disturbing in that they seem to imply that even entertaining the possibility of such a discovery is foolish. Sad.
Yes, you are correct there are people who live at higher altitudes, as I found poking around the net after I posted. But only in areas where their ancestors have lived at high altitudes for 5,000 - 10,000 years (the Andes and Tibet, basically). There is no evidence that any of the peoples who live in the area (Turkey) have lived at those high altitudes for such a long time.
But, in the end, I didn't really disagree with you - there is no solid proof it is Noah's ark - just the possibility that it is a structure that would fit with the Biblical account and for which no other ready explanation is at hand.
"There is considerable variability between individuals and between populations in their ability to adjust to the environmental stresses of high mountain regions. Usually, the populations that are most successful are those whose ancestors have lived at high altitudes for thousands of years. This is the case with some of the indigenous peoples living in the Andes Mountains of Peru and Bolivia as well as the Tibetans and Nepalese in the Himalaya Mountains. The ancestors of many people in each of these populations have lived above 13,000 feet (ca. 4000 meters) for 5,000-10,000 years."
http://anthro.palomar.edu/adapt/adapt_3.htm
From what I've read in the past, the Ark was visible in the times of Josephus (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and in more recent years it's been discovered that the Ark is entombed with a glacier and has broken into at least two, possibly three, pieces by now. It's no longer completely intact.
Can anyone confirm this?
Such are the times we live in. Many claim to believe in God...while not believing God.
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