Posted on 04/23/2010 4:35:09 PM PDT by Dallas59
The fight over Senate Bill 1070 took to the streets of downtown Phoenix, as riot Police were called to the Capitol to control an unruly group of protesters.
Witnesses say a group protesting against SB1070 began to fight with a man who was for the controversial immigration bill.
Police tried escorting that man away from the scene, fearing for his safety, when they too came under attack by people throwing items, including water bottles.
A young man was arrested during that melee.
Things calmed down moments later, but riot Police remained at the capital to maintain some sort of order.
(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxphoenix.com ...
Busing Los Angeles riot folk to Arizona can take 30-50 years off their life.
Lost me right there. I think that you need to rethink that statement.
Ping!
I think it’s self-explanatory. If they’re prostituting themselves politically,sexually in order to get here, they’re stealing someones identity , murdering someone(that rancher in Arizona) lying their ass off in one way or another to gain entry in here. I’m sick of ‘em.
Wait until they start arresting them. Illegal is illegal. It’s time we took our country back. If they want to come here, they do so legally. Just like the early immigrants did. This is getting out of hand. At least AZ had the guts to protect their people. They are destroying CA.
It’s only a matter of time.
And there in lies the plans. The Liberal Facist want to make us into a Yugoslavia. Make all the different races hate one another then use the government as the buffer.. It is working out brilliantly the way they want it to.. Next we will have a war like Yugo did.. I pray we dont.
Stand alone line. Funny.
One of the comments on youtube in retort to someone posting that illegals are a boon to the area's economy and we are in debt slackers that should be grateful they are here, went through a list of how Guatemalans are treated when they try to enter illegally ( violently), and that foreigners are not allowed to own property, vote or be gifted government assistance.
So why do they feel so strident about demanding and extorting all of that from us here? Is this a communist attack on us from another flank?
REMEMBER in November 2010 and 2012!
“The True History of the Southwest, 101”
The amount of historical idiocy and fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest is staggering, chief among them the “Aztlan” fairy tales. What’s the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The “conquistadores” (that means “conquerors”) did it with the lance, and the lash.
For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present-day Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the “lost cities of gold.” One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn 100s of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest—not with hugs and kisses. It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners, who spin the “new bronze race of Mestizos” toro-mierda.
By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow the even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish rule. However, the distant provinces of the current U.S. Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of the independent but strife-torn government of Mexico City. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south. Under Spanish rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indians. Under Mexican abandonment and neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.
For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in this power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been active for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal subjects in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish-era standard of living. Mexican governmental influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.
Increasingly, a growing United States of America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via gigantic wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the SPANISH in these provinces subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER considered themselves “Mexicans” at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from SPANISH directly to AMERICAN. To this very day, if you want a punch in the nose, just call an Hispanic native of New Mexico a “Mexican!”
So how long did Mexico City have even nominal jurisdiction (in their eyes) over the American Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards by every measure until the arrival of the Americans. The SPANISH inhabitants of the Southwest NEVER transferred their loyalty to Mexico City, because all they received from the chaotic Mexican government was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.
Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, now American citizens, have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans still stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start until today. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America that they can never hope to obtain in Mexico.
And because today Mexico is a corrupt third-world pest-hole, (despite having more millionaires and billionaires than Great Britain), we are now supposed to let any Mexican from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some “historical claim” of a right to live there?
From where does this absurd idea spring?
At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn’t happen. The SPANISH in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade.
In summary, NO current inhabitants of Mexico have ANY claim on even one single inch of the Southwest!
NOT ONE citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the USA to reclaim property their ancestors were deprived of, NOT ONE.
They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.
It’s time Americans learned the true history, as a counter to the prevalent Aztlaner fairy tales.
Or “criminaliens.”
They should be known as the "New Conquistadores".
Immigrants from Europe came here to "be Americans", not to reconquer for England, or Ireland, or Poland, or Italy, or Germany, or wherever they came from originally.
Current illegal immigrants from Mexico come here to "reconquer" the US for "Aztlan".
Ask any American Indian from a Southwestern Tribe (Apaches, Navojos, Hopis, Comanches etc) if they EVER recognized the soverignty of the Aztecs in Mexico City and the response would probably be "Not only No, but Hell NO!".
If you think that's just jingoist bluster, ask yourself "How could rulers in Mexico City 1000 years ago, without horses, possibly have exercised any control over what is today the American Southwest, having to cross the Sonoran/Mojave deserts on foot to do so?
The Northwest is a very conservative area, except for the liberal enclaves of Portland and Seattle. Idaho is starting to have a “Boise Problem” too.
Even SoCal has conservative sections, but lets face it, it is the most overrun part of the USA and it’s unlikely the forces of God, Country and American Pie can ever retrieve it from the invaders, libtards, socialists and assorted lefty scum who rule there.
And so is much legal immigration. I remember a Asian woman at work (hi-tech) fretting and fussing about how to keep her father on Socail Security, a man who moved here at age 60+, had never worked a day in the USA. Meanwhile this lady (also an immigrant) was making well over $60,000 a year. She was outraged that somehow it had been discovered that he wasn't eligible for SSI. I think she was going the disability route.
“And so is much legal immigration. I remember a Asian woman at work (hi-tech) fretting and fussing about how to keep her father on Socail Security, a man who moved here at age 60+, had never worked a day in the USA. Meanwhile this lady (also an immigrant) was making well over $60,000 a year. She was outraged that somehow it had been discovered that he wasn’t eligible for SSI. I think she was going the disability route.”
All too true! Studies show that even legal immigration is a net drain on the economy. We are not vetting them, and surely not getting the ‘best of the best’.
Here’s a description of some of the protests at the AZ capitol.
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/153016
[snip]Protestors, some with bandannas over their mouths to protect from tear gas, surrounded police and hurled full or partially-full water bottles at officers in riot gear who formed a line of 50 or so. Bottles were thrown at a passing ambulance and fire engine and some protestors climbed on top of bus stops along Jefferson Avenue.
A juvenile was arrested on suspicion of aggravated assault against a police officer for throwing a bottle, the Department of Public Safety said. The demonstrators blocked Jefferson and officers stopped traffic until the crowd moved off of the street.
An hour later, at 17th Avenue and Adams Street, an ice cream vendor told police that one of his ice cream carts had been stolen and pointed out a man to an officer. The suspect was selling items from the stolen cart, police said.
(LOL! Well, we are told they are great entrepreneurs!!!)
As the officer was arresting the man, a crowd formed and one suspect began throwing items at the officer, striking him. Police quickly formed a line and another man forced his way through the officers and was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. The suspect with the ice cream cart was charged with theft.
Leftist moochers protesting??
AYN RAND WAS RIGHT.
What do they think they have a RIGHT to?
How about the right to shut the hell up and GO BACK TO YOUR HOME COUNTRY?! Force them onto busses and onto ships and SHIP THEM HOME. Its been done before! AND IT WORKED. Mexicans and other illegals FLED in huge numbers rather than be put on a bus and sent to say south central Mexico perhaps thousands of miles from their real homes! They left voluntarily in numbers in the millions.
THATS how you do it, “we will arrest you and ship you out, or get out on your own NOW. Any questions? No? Good. NOW MOVE!!” Put Sheriff Joe in charge of the department of Immigration and BLAMO you will see some freaking results.
But that is gonna take a Sarah Palin sort of President to make that happen.
Needless to say, with the bastards in power at this moment, it isn’t going to happen, and so innocent Americans are going to die. Brilliant. (/sarc)
God Bless Arizona for doing the right thing!
“It’s time Americans learned the true history, as a counter to the prevalent Aztlaner fairy tales.”
Yes, indeed it is.
Your story reminds me of my Cherokee ancestors. In Rusk Cty. Texas they formed a community they called Mt. Tabor about 1839 and many of them lived there far after the Civil War. They were given access to the land with Mexico’s blessing. Mexicans didn’t want anything to do with that area, it was untamed and harsh. They covered Sam Houston’s back side from invading, bandit Mexicans. Houston, after Texas became a republic gave them the right to their lands...which the feds later refused to honor when Texas became a state.
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