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U.S. Says Florida Can't Opt Out of Federal Healthcare
HEALTH NEWS FLORIDA ^ | 4/23/2010 | Carol Gentry and Jim Saunders

Posted on 04/23/2010 11:58:03 AM PDT by tutstar

By Carol Gentry and Jim Saunders 4/23/2010 © Health News Florida Only hours after the Florida House and Senate voted to “opt out” of the new federal health law, the top U.S. health official said Thursday night that will not be permitted.

Without mentioning any particular state or going into detail, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said that state and local officials can vent all they want about a so-called “federal takeover” of health care. But they cannot deny their citizens access to its benefits or requirements, she told the Association of Health Care Journalists. Our eAlert subscribers read it first! “They may want to opt out, but they don’t get to opt out all of their citizens who want and need health care,” Sebelius said.

Florida has an estimated 4 million uninsured, most of whom will be covered when the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) takes full effect in 2014.

At least 30 states have passed state constitutional amendment legislation similar to that approved by the Florida Legislature, according to theNational Conference of State Legislatures.

Sebelius said the backlash against the ACA has been ginned up by “misinformation,” much of it deliberate. Thus HHS will be setting up an Internet site to answer frequent questions and a toll-free helpline, similar to that operated for Medicare beneficiaries. HHS staff members present at the conference said they hope to have the Internet site up by July 1 and the help desk soon after.

The opt-out measure passed in the House and Senate on Thursday, a proposed amendment to the Florida Constitution, will go before voters in the November election. The proposal says, in part, that Floridians may not be forced by law to "participate in any health-care system.''

Dividing along almost strict party lines, the House passed the proposal 74-42, and the Senate followed in a 26-11 vote. Republican supporters say the issue is a matter of freedom and preventing encroachment by the federal government.

"The fact that we have to have this debate in the United States of America is troubling and bizarre,'' said Rep. Mike Horner, R-Kissimmee.

Democrats said the proposal's supporters have spent more time trying to prevent expansion of coverage than they have on solving the state's health-care problems.

"That is the folly of this moment, and this constitutional amendment is misguided in the extreme,'' said Sen. Dan Gelber, D-Miami Beach.

The measure is primarily aimed at part of the health-reform law that will eventually require people to buy health insurance or face financial penalties --- a concept known as the "individual mandate.'' Republicans in Tallahassee and other state capitals have launched numerous efforts to allow people to opt out of the requirement since the Democrat-controlled Congress passed it last month.

At the same time, Republican Attorney General Bill McCollum has launched a separate legal battle challenging the federal law. That lawsuit is pending.

Democrats have repeatedly argued that the legislative attempts to allow Floridians to opt out of the federal law would violate the so-called "supremacy clause'' of the U.S. Constitution. That clause generally gives precedence to federal law over state law when conflicts occur.

"We should not step on the United States Constitution, and that's what you are doing now,'' Davie Democrat Martin Kiar said during the House debate today.

But supporters dispute that the supremacy clause bars the state from allowing people to avoid the individual mandate. "The supremacy clause does not say the feds control the states,'' Melbourne Republican Ritch Workman said.

Supporters also say that even if the proposal ultimately is found to violate the supremacy clause, it would remain in place to protect Floridians from future state health-care requirements. As an example, it would prevent Florida from approving coverage requirements similar to those in Massachusetts.

More broadly, however, Palm Harbor Republican Peter Nehr said it is the Legislature's duty to "step up and reassert the rights of Floridians.''


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To: tutstar

Wait, what?!?

Did I just hear a metaphorical volley fired at our good friends in Florida?? Are they being told that FEDERAL law TRUMPS STATES RIGHTS?!?!?

Oh, it’s on, all right. Where’s SCOTUS?? Obamacare by the grace of God ain’t happening AT ALL, but with lawsuits bogging it down in the courts for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, Obama’s kids will be little old ladies by the time (if liberals win, which they won’t!) it gets through!

Now to defunding!


101 posted on 04/23/2010 12:51:29 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue" ><>)
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To: wiggen

I’m beginning to see

“a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinc[ing] a design to reduce [us] under absolute despotism”


102 posted on 04/23/2010 12:51:33 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: tutstar

so...apparently among the zillion powers the Obamacare bill gives to Kathleen Sebelius is command of several Army divisions to march in and occupy Tallahassee?


103 posted on 04/23/2010 12:53:50 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: boycott
So they’re trying to protect the rights of citizens with rights that don’t exist? Do we not have a right not to fund socialism?

Well said.

104 posted on 04/23/2010 12:56:20 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Travis McGee

All I can say is “wowzers”.

BTW on another forum I’m on people are discussing your serious and others are getting from Amazon. They all say how they can’t put it down!

;-)


105 posted on 04/23/2010 12:56:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: hoosierham

YOU Get it!

Good post.


106 posted on 04/23/2010 1:00:15 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: Travis McGee

nice.


107 posted on 04/23/2010 1:02:41 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: listenhillary
Who is John Galt?

Quiet fellow, keeps to himself. Lives just down the road from Henry Bowman.

108 posted on 04/23/2010 1:03:09 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Travis McGee

We are about to see a clear example of “Might is Right”, and we had best have the might to be right.


109 posted on 04/23/2010 1:04:26 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Travis McGee

Amen to that and who the hell does Sebelius think she is. Our country is so screwed up right now it’s sickening.


110 posted on 04/23/2010 1:04:43 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: tutstar

We need to take our country back from these thugs.


111 posted on 04/23/2010 1:05:43 PM PDT by b4its2late (Bawney Fwank's mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork.)
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To: tutstar

The battle is on and the states can opt out, but the dang govt will still tax us and take the money out of our paychecks. If the state opts out, does that mean that they can’t take our money???? doubt it. hacks me off.


112 posted on 04/23/2010 1:06:14 PM PDT by southernindymom
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To: tutstar

Kathleen can G.F.H. (I can’t imagine that anybody else would.)


113 posted on 04/23/2010 1:06:30 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: Charles Martel

And John May. ;-)


114 posted on 04/23/2010 1:07:03 PM PDT by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue" ><>)
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To: tutstar
Kathleen Sebelius is now the "U.S." ???????

You're right tutstar. The battle is on.........and it may well be a battle for our lives.

115 posted on 04/23/2010 1:08:58 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: screaminsunshine

Run up the Bonnie Blue Flag. Most people are too ignorant to know that it also stood for the Confederacy.


116 posted on 04/23/2010 1:10:16 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: Genoa

I’ll take a loose federation. The alternative isn’t working.


117 posted on 04/23/2010 1:13:11 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Apparently she’s now the SCOTUS?


118 posted on 04/23/2010 1:13:44 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

What part of the contitution gives her the right to say what a State can or can’t in regards to heathcare.


119 posted on 04/23/2010 1:14:16 PM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: newgeezer
Ummmmmmmmmmmm.......that's not really what that passage says, new.

I believe it has to do with social upheaval and oppression due to rebellion and isn't about either boys or women, don't you?

Otherwise, you'd better include Margaret Thatcher, Sarah Palin, or for that matter, Deborah and Esther in your sweeping generalization about "women rulers."

120 posted on 04/23/2010 1:15:31 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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