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Retired Army general: Lt. Col. Lakin has 'valid point'
World Net Daily ^ | April 23, 2010 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 04/23/2010 8:47:39 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

A retired Army general and national security policy expert says Lt. Col. Terry Lakin has "a valid point" and should use his "right to discovery" to force the Obama administration to produce proof of his natural-born citizenship status.

In an interview with Evil Conservative Radio, Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely said, "I think many in the military – and many out of the military – question the natural-birth status of Barack Obama. … I'm not convinced that he is [a natural-born citizen]."

Vallely, CEO of Stand Up America U.S., graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and was commissioned in the Army in 1961, serving 32 years.

He said he inspected his own long-form birth certificate, and it contains a doctor's name, date and location of birth.

"But he's never been able to produce that," he said of Obama. "His unwillingness to do it also concerns me. I think Lt. Col. Lakin has a valid point. … He refuses to produce a birth certificate that states the witnessing of the birth, the date and who is the doctor. We don't know why he won't come out with that."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; beckisabirther; birthcertificate; certifigate; gibbsisabirther; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamaisabirhter; oreillyisabirther; terrylakin; whatisobamahiding; whoisbarackobama
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To: shadowland
"English common law and not the French philosophes for our definition"

b.t.w. Vattel was Swiss (not French) and Blackstone wrote "commentaries" on British common law.

The vaunted Blackstone himself stated the importance of natural law:

Blackstone affirmed the basis of natural law:
"This law of nature, being co-eval with mankind and dictated by God himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid derive all their force, and all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original” (1979, 41). In this passage, Blackstone articulates the two claims that constitute the theoretical core of conceptual naturalism: 1) there can be no legally valid standards that conflict with the natural law; and 2) all valid laws derive what force and authority they have from the natural law."

161 posted on 04/23/2010 11:24:36 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Cboldt

The Senate can pass resolutions all day.

They mean nothing in the law. It’s political smoke and mirrors.


162 posted on 04/23/2010 11:24:50 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

I feel like a jerk praying for his conviction, but that’s really what has to happen - if it’s true that the military wouldn’t allow him discovery. I hope they do allow discovery though. I hate feeling like our military leadership is full of bad guys.


163 posted on 04/23/2010 11:25:50 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Mr Rogers; Uncle Chip
If they thought it right, they could not have certified him to be put on the ballot or the election.

Bwwwaaaahahahahaa, did you post that with a straight face???

I have to go clean the spit of my monitor now, thanks.

164 posted on 04/23/2010 11:26:08 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Beckwith

Loose ends. I love it. Obama is the diarrhea president.

That’s right up there with the Toyota Regime.


165 posted on 04/23/2010 11:27:00 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: panthermom
"they thought us too stupid to care and knew most were too scared to challenge a Black president.

And the irony with THAT is that he is more White and Arabic than Black!

The whole thing's a scam!

166 posted on 04/23/2010 11:28:26 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Cboldt

Read this:

http://theobamafile.com/_eligibility/DemocraticTwoStep.html


167 posted on 04/23/2010 11:28:45 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: An Old Man
Well, I do! He will not produce one because there is none to produce. He is not "A natural born citizen" of the United States of America.

He truly has no citizenship simply because he is not a person in the legal sense.

Barry Soetoro never had his name legally changed, so Barack Obama is an alias......

Fictitious characters are not 'born', so they can have no birth certificate.

168 posted on 04/23/2010 11:29:19 AM PDT by MamaTexan (NO ONE owes allegiance to an unconstitutional government)
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To: butterdezillion

Shame on you, Butter.

LOL!


169 posted on 04/23/2010 11:29:19 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Mr Rogers
-- they could not have certified him to be put on the ballot or the election. --

Technically, the voter is choosing electors who must submit evidence of being qualified to be an elector. The names of the parties' nominees are provided by the states as a convenience, and AFAIK, it is the parties that provide an attestation of qualification as to their candidates.

There have been occasions where clearly unqualified candidate's names appear on the presidential election ballots - out and out foreigners!

But even if the states screw up in the "convenience name," that has no direct legal effect beyond misleading the voters. The people are voting for a PARTY when it comes to the presidential election.

The entity with the duty to discern qualification of the person with a sufficient number of electoral votes is Congress.

170 posted on 04/23/2010 11:29:34 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: trisham

He is right, trish. You can freepmail me for further details.


171 posted on 04/23/2010 11:29:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: trisham
Take it easy, FRiend.

Oh, but I am. This is me being easy.
172 posted on 04/23/2010 11:31:52 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Mr Rogers
They simply assumed your definition was wrong.

SHOW ME where they said that ---

YOU are the one doing the ASSUMING, not them.

And you know what happens to those who ASSUME --

173 posted on 04/23/2010 11:33:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: bgill
Texas demands the real thing, too.

Here in Nevada, soon anyone who wishes to renew their driver license will have to show a Certified BC, SS card or passport and proof of address (utility bill etc).

Everyone must comply by 2017

174 posted on 04/23/2010 11:34:14 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Uncle Chip

Ahhh...so they believed your definition was correct, but put Obama in office without a single protest.

OK. Believe that if you wish. Wanna buy a bridge?


175 posted on 04/23/2010 11:34:52 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: ASA Vet

I just checked posting history, what there is of it.

It nees to go back to the shadows from whence it came (very recently I might add).


176 posted on 04/23/2010 11:34:57 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Las Vegas Ron

LOL —


177 posted on 04/23/2010 11:37:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Unless the Factcheck clows made the forgery. So Gibbs actually said he or whoever he represents, obviously 0thugga, gave the paper to the Factchecks clowns. Gibbs really stepped in it, then.


178 posted on 04/23/2010 11:37:35 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: rxsid
The whole thing's a scam!

Yep, a political coup without a shot fired.

179 posted on 04/23/2010 11:39:48 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Beckwith

ROTFLOL!

Beckwith keeping his cool.


180 posted on 04/23/2010 11:40:00 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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