Approaching apocalypse: Will Obama docs surface?

World Net Daily ^ | April 20, 2010 | Bob Unruh

[Smokeyblue]

The defense attorney for an officer refusing Army orders until Barack Obama documents his eligibility to be commander in chief has hinted that the president's proof of eligibility could come up during the course of the government's prosecution of his client.

"In the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), just as you would expect, criminal defendants have the process of the court, for subpoenas and depositions under the rules that are prescribed," attorney Paul Jensen said during an interview today on the radio show of G. Gordon Liddy.

Jensen was on the program with his client, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who posted a YouTube video inviting his own court-martial because he believes military orders under an ineligible president are illegal, and then posted a letter telling Obama that it's up to him to provide the proof.

"I'm not going to say what we are going to do other than we are going to do what you would want us to do," Jensen said.

He specifically avoided broadcasting any specific defense strategy for the case that is developing against Lakin – confirming that the officer was told in writing on Monday that he now has been "flagged" by the military and charges are expected to be filed soon.

[xkaydet65]

I have high confidence. The PSA# was borderline at worst, but doctors for many reasons, torts being one, don’t want to take chances. But I have a second PSA due out later this week and if that # is good I’ll forgoe the biopsy. Thanks for your concern.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Ah, my second goof (it’s getting late). I kept thinking SC had withdrawn, but you’re right, that was a legislative vote, for which went to Breckinridge, so that should be 33 states that participated, with 32 voting directly for the electors.

[little jeremiah]

There is so much that can only be speculated or surmised; the lack of documentation prevents absolute certainties. Hopefully that will be taken care of in the not too far away future.

Sven Magnussen states that Soetoro did adopt him and also that he did renounced his US citizenship in Indonesia at the US Embassy; I’m sure you’ve read his comments. I think he may be connected with some case that is working its way through things.

At any rate, 0bama is mentioned in SADO and Soetoro’s divorce papers, even though (IIRC) he was over 18 at the time. If he had not been adopted, why would he have been mentioned at all (although his name was not mentioned).

I got the impression - remember the letters or something from the Indo nanny who was barely older than 0bama? - that he was troublesome over in Indo; often men who marry women with previous children have a hard time with the kids that aren’t theirs. Not always of course, but it happens.

Courtesy ping to Sven.

[little jeremiah]

Hope the numbers are just where you want them.

[TigersEye]

You have FReep-mail. ;-)

[AuH2ORepublican]

In 1960, AL had 11electoral votes. The 11 Democrat electors included 5 “loyalists” pledged to Kennedy and 6 “unpledged” electors. Unlike in MS, voters in AL could not cast their votes for a separate slate of unpledged electors—they could only vote for Kennedy (with his 6 unpledged electors and 5 loyalists) or Nixon. Kennedy carried the state quite comfortably, but had 54.5% of Kennedy votes been cast for unpledged electors and 45.5% of them for Kennedy electors it would have resulted in Nixon carrying the state with a plurality; it also would have given Nixon a plurality of the national popular vote.

[AuH2ORepublican]

I should note that I did not choose the 54.5% and 45.5% figures arbitrarily, but by giving a hypothetical slate of unpledged electors 6/11 (or 54.5%) of the actual Kennedy vote and a hypothetical slate of “loyalist” electors 45.5% of the Kennedy vote.

[jonno]

hmmm...your tagline dovetails nicely with my own political philosophy - to wit: if a person can’t get it right on an issue as morally basic as abortion, every other position they hold is suspect, and they are not to be trusted.

[Edison]

Not being on the ballot in 10 GOP leaning states won’t hurt that much. Where it could possibly hurt the most would be during the primary. If a strong Dem challenger is on the ballot in ten states that O isn’t it could swing the nomination.

[TigersEye]

The ONLY way Oblama is going to be removed from office other than voted out in 2012 is if the Supreme Court saw some reason to question his eligibility.

Even if SCOTUS ruled that he was ineligible that would not remove him from office. Congress has to impeach and remove the President.

Of course a SCOTUS ruling like that would make it hard for Congress to do anything else.

[AuH2ORepublican]

Good point, especially given that the only reason that Obama beat out Hillary for the nomination was by winning every heavily Republican caucus state on the strength of college kids that could waste hours at a caucus since they didn’t have a job or responsibilities.

[lucysmom]

...explain to us why you spent $2 million in legal fees to keep it from us.

It is not logical to make something up and then demand an explanation for the product of your own imagination - in fact, its called a logical fallacy.

[Chgogal]

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22221

“The diversionary search for an authentic birth certificate is ongoing and Obama has now spent in excess of $2 million in legal fees to keep that search alive.”

You stand corrected. Only democrats and fools refuse to search before they flame. Yes, I am talking to you. Are you on Obama’s team?

[TigersEye]

All in all, if he is indeed eligible, a $12 official certificate detailing the standard information would score huge points for his credibility.

I don't think he could do that at this late date and not destroy his credibility. Even the left-wing MSM would be all over him for holding back such a simple thing for so long. He would simultaneously prove that he was natural born and a jerk who played games with all of the American people for no good reason.

[Chgogal]

TigersEye, thank you for your logical and thoughtful opinion. I agree with you. The damn fool has spent over $2 million to keep it from We, the People. What a silly waste of money. Just show us the BC and be done with it.

[lucysmom]

It seems that the author just throws out the number without offering any evidence to back it up.

[BP2]

> Placing the birth notices in the newspapers was just the beginning of establishing false parentage.
> No one imagined then that it would become meaningful later.

Exactly.

Beck and O' Reilly are so far off base when they say something moronic like, “Yeah, sure ... and his parents placed the ads in the newspapers so that one day their son could run for president.”

Of course that's stupid. That's not how it unfolded and being the POTUS certainly wasn't the motive in 1961.

The motive was likely Welfare and other government support because Obama SR got his sorry ass out of the United States and back to Kenya after finishing his schooling at Harvard. There's NO evidence in the 1964 divorce paperwork or elsewhere that Obama SR ever paid a dime of Child Support or Alimony. Furthermore, Obama-mama Ann Dunham did not request Child Support for EITHER of her two kids (or Alimony for herself) in the 1980 divorce from Lolo Soetoro. However, multiple SSNs and aliases likely assisted Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Sutoro Soetoro Rosanna-Rosanna-Danna to collect those US Govt checks later as she resided in Indonesia after dumping her son on the grandparents back in Hawaii from 1971 to 1979.

Another motive was to help give baby-Obama a legal name and sense of legitimacy. As only 0.8 percent of Hawaii's population in 1960 and 1970 was black, the added stigma of being labeled a BASTARD child certainly is not a plus to any kid's (or young mother's) reputation.

The fact that Obama would one day become the (de-facto) POTUS is not a plan hatched in 1961; only 2004, after he won his US Senate seat, first announcing his intentions to run for president, and started “securing” and otherwise covering up any loose PAPERWORK floating around in the system that could somehow later incriminate him.

It would be ALL TOO EASY in 2008 for the "first Black man to become president" to convince the Court of Public Opinion that the abbreviated Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" and those two cheesy, little newspaper announcements were SOLID PROOF that he was BORN IN HAWAII, OR otherwise corroborate his Vital Statistics.

However, as the Court of Public Opinion in 2010 would later turn away from Obama, his wife and Kenya Parliament said his native country is Kenya, and the lawsuits against his Eligibility grew more refined ... it would make it MUCH more palatable for a Judge in a Court of Law to order subpoenas to get to the TRUTHS behind the LIES.

[TigersEye]

Thanks for that. I don’t think he will back down now. He painted himself into a corner ... for nothing if he is really natural born.

[lucysmom]

I agree with you. The damn fool has spent over $2 million to keep it from We, the People.

You may agree, however that doesn't make it fact unless you have evidence to back it up.

[little jeremiah]

Checking peoples’ posting history always tells the tale.