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To: Nepeta; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ..

> Placing the birth notices in the newspapers was just the beginning of establishing false parentage.
> No one imagined then that it would become meaningful later.

Exactly.

Beck and O' Reilly are so far off base when they say something moronic like, “Yeah, sure ... and his parents placed the ads in the newspapers so that one day their son could run for president.”

Of course that's stupid. That's not how it unfolded and being the POTUS certainly wasn't the motive in 1961.

The motive was likely Welfare and other government support because Obama SR got his sorry ass out of the United States and back to Kenya after finishing his schooling at Harvard. There's NO evidence in the 1964 divorce paperwork or elsewhere that Obama SR ever paid a dime of Child Support or Alimony. Furthermore, Obama-mama Ann Dunham did not request Child Support for EITHER of her two kids (or Alimony for herself) in the 1980 divorce from Lolo Soetoro. However, multiple SSNs and aliases likely assisted Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Sutoro Soetoro Rosanna-Rosanna-Danna to collect those US Govt checks later as she resided in Indonesia after dumping her son on the grandparents back in Hawaii from 1971 to 1979.

Another motive was to help give baby-Obama a legal name and sense of legitimacy. As only 0.8 percent of Hawaii's population in 1960 and 1970 was black, the added stigma of being labeled a BASTARD child certainly is not a plus to any kid's (or young mother's) reputation.

The fact that Obama would one day become the (de-facto) POTUS is not a plan hatched in 1961; only 2004, after he won his US Senate seat, first announcing his intentions to run for president, and started “securing” and otherwise covering up any loose PAPERWORK floating around in the system that could somehow later incriminate him.

It would be ALL TOO EASY in 2008 for the "first Black man to become president" to convince the Court of Public Opinion that the abbreviated Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" and those two cheesy, little newspaper announcements were SOLID PROOF that he was BORN IN HAWAII, OR otherwise corroborate his Vital Statistics.

However, as the Court of Public Opinion in 2010 would later turn away from Obama, his wife and Kenya Parliament said his native country is Kenya, and the lawsuits against his Eligibility grew more refined ... it would make it MUCH more palatable for a Judge in a Court of Law to order subpoenas to get to the TRUTHS behind the LIES.



137 posted on 04/20/2010 11:03:55 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

eck and O’ Reilly are so far off base when they say something moronic like, “Yeah, sure ... and his parents placed the ads in the newspapers so that one day their son could run for president.”

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When anyone says that it it makes me think they are either in the tank or complete and utter morons.


141 posted on 04/20/2010 11:30:20 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: BP2
Beck and O' Reilly are so far off base when they say something moronic like, “Yeah, sure ... and his parents placed the ads in the newspapers so that one day their son could run for president.”

Of course that's stupid. That's not how it unfolded and being the POTUS certainly wasn't the motive in 1961.

The motive was likely Welfare and other government support

I think he is one of perhaps a thousand or so agents born, bred, and trained to work their ways into positions of power to damage and ultimately cause the downfall of the United States.

Our enemies are patient, well funded, and have deep seated fanatical hatred of freedom and liberty.

The old Soviet Union, Communist China, and Our Dear Friends, the Saudis have had every reason to work towards the end of American power.

With the full resources of a determined nation-state, and/or unlimited petrodollars, and recognizing that no one has the ability to defeat the US in a head-to-head battle, they had the ability and the motivation to try something more subtle.

For such it would be a trivial exercise to train thousands or even tens of thousands of agents to work their ways into various positions of power to sap our strength.

They studied us for decades, found our weaknesses (exploitable Constitutional protections of freedom of speech, separation of church and state, sensitivity to calls of racism, fundamental sense of fair play, etc.) and devised methods to exploit each one.

Whats the cost of inculcating hate and radicalism into a pliable young mind? How does that compare to the cost of a single B-2 bomber? How many B-2's do we have? More importantly, how many agents do they have? What levers of power are they holding? How many of "our" professors, law clerks, judges, politicians, soldiers, reporters, rabble rousers, preachers, or? are working in their own little ways to weaken us?

It would be silly to think that Obama was selected from birth to be anything so grandiose as an American president. He was just a disaffected child abandoned by his parents, raised by his communist grandparents, and steeped in the fundamentals of Islam who was groomed to harm America in his own little ways.

Did anyone imagine in their wildest hopes and expectations, that a mere community organizer would manage to get the ultimate lever of power? Nope. He succeeded beyond their wildest hopes and expectations (perhaps they believe it was as allah wills?) .

Small wonder they are scrambling so hard to hide every detail of his life! He was never expected to get this kind of scrutiny, he was supposed to be a cypher, not a superstar! That we are putting his life under a microscope risks blowing their whole operation.

We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Never been more true than now.

143 posted on 04/20/2010 11:53:27 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 453 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: BP2

Heads exploding at DU over the BC issue. ROFLMAO!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4351080


144 posted on 04/20/2010 11:56:57 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: BP2
has anyone looked at the birth records for Obama's many siblings?

Just curious to see if there is or is not a pattern and practice

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161 posted on 04/21/2010 1:15:11 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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