Posted on 04/20/2010 5:32:20 PM PDT by pissant
Is America a Christian nation?
Sarah Palin said on Friday that it's "mind-boggling" to suggest otherwise.
But two groups dedicated to the separation of church and state are now speaking out against her, arguing that she is misreading the founders' intent.
"It's incredibly hypocritical that Sarah Palin, who disapproves of government involvement in just about anything, now suddenly wants the government to help people be religious," Barry Lynn, the executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, told ABC News.
"It is wildly inconsistent with her views on limited government to get the government involved in matters of faith."
Lynn was reacting to remarks Palin gave last Friday in Louisville, Ky., one day after a federal judge in Wisconsin ruled that the National Day of Prayer, created in 1952 by Congress, violated the First Amendment.
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Obama said that this wasn’t a Christian Nation, did he worry about approval polls?
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“Otherwise people will still go to snopes to see if that email virus alert is real or not.”
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Wise people go to Trend Micro for that kind of information. Snopes is not reliable for such things.
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Know them by their enemies. Go Sarah, go!
Someone makes an innocuous comment about this being a Christian nation and the Chicken Littles on the Left start screaming, “The theocrats are coming! The theocrats are coming!”
Typical.
Sarah, you’re truly magnificent.
It’s high time we Christians took back our right to freedom of expression. We’ve been stomped on long enough.
If the earth-worshipers and muzzies on the left don’t like it, that’s just tough.
Amen Sister!
Okay, but there is nothing preventing that now.
Double BUMP
Just remember when the 2012 primaries come around, who stood up and defended conservative values against the MSM and other leftwing kooks and who was hiding under their office desk or had their phones off the hook.
Amen and amen. Palin is appealin' and she's leading the much-needed American restoration.
The irony of the left is they came up with the slogan, "Hate is not a family value"
Raging hate seems to be their only value these days.
mlizzy and anti-utopian both have come to the conclusion that, based on the sinful behavior and actions of many Americans, America is not a “Christian” nation.
I have two responses to their conclusion.
First, if perfect Christian behavior on the part of the majority of a particular country’s citizens is the primary requirement for determining whether or not a nation is Christian, then I don’t think there ever has been or will be a “Christian” nation.
It’s easy to find un-Christlike behavior in any nation’s history past and present. This is unfortunately true for the United States as well - although I think there are also a great many examples of Christian values exhibited by many Americans past and present. Generosity, charity, sacrifice, and courage have (and still are) been lived out by our forefathers and many Americans who live today.
But by your “behavioral” definition, no nation, let alone the United States, could ever be a Christian nation - if Christian perfection is the determining criteria. As the scripture says, “All men have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”
My second response is that that is not what people usually mean when they say that America is a Christian nation.
And, we also don’t mean that the United States is a Christan theocratic state (as Israel was in acient times)either. Neither do we mean that our Founding Fathers were all Christians, or perfect, sinless, saints.
No, what is meant when we say that America is a Christian nation is that our founding principles of equality, justice, and the rule of law are rooted in a Judeo-Christian world view. The most obvious example of this is in the Declaration of Independence:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
So, mlizzy and anti-utopian, while I understand what you are saying, I must disagree with your disagreement. The United States was and is founded upon Judeo-Christian principles and world-view. We don’t always live up to those principles, but we are founded upon them none the less.
Lynn is just crazy. Ray Billington, the historian, wrote a book called “The Protestant Crusade,” about the United States prior to the Civil War. He spoke of Protestant Christianity, or the American evangelical form of it, as the “unofficlal national Church” of the United States.” Before the Revolution, the people were largely unchurched. Beginning with the first Great Awakening, however, this began to change. During the Revolution, Churchmen, especially the Presbyterians and Congregationalists, were the major professional class supporting the Patriots. Lawyers were split, but doctors and preachers were generally behind the Revolution. The Revolutionary leaders were not especially religious, but during the 1790s, in part in reaction to the irreligion
in of the French Revolution, which broke the Franco-American alliance as much as anything, Americans began to join churches in droves. By the time of the Civil War, most Americans belonged to a church, including virtually all
political figures. Lincoln was exceptional in not belonging to any. In Dc, however, he attended the New York St. Presbyterian Church.
After his son’s death in a duel, Alexander Hamilton underwent a kind of religious conversion. Hamilton was later killed by Burr in a duel, but he was strangely ambivalent of the matter. Torn between his sense of honor and the feeling that this was not right.
Not nice! SARAH is a Christian - goes by The Bible, God’s Word - as all Christians are commanded to do - and not the doctrine of man.
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