Posted on 04/19/2010 6:19:38 PM PDT by Stayfree
During a discussion on O'Reilly about Bill Clinton's recent attempts to compare the Tea Party movement to the impact of conservative talk radio like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, etc. as having caused Timothy McVay to bomb the Oklahomea Federal building, Dick Morris suggested that Bill should zipper it because Clinton had indicated that this is the first time that he has divulged a comment by Bill that he had to renominate Janet Reno for another term as Attorney General or she would go public about Waco.
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That is worth repeating on this thread.
If so, they were sadly misinformed.
Ruby Ridge: August 1992
Reno takes office: March 1993
I’m sorry....I typed ahead of myself...they routinely complained about RR and Waco...the Waco thing they associated with Janet Reno...Ruby Ridge left a bitter taste in their mouth b/c of the Dep Marshal getting killed...which they blamed on mismanagement of the gov’t still....
Sorry I was typing and trying to hurry and my comment was confusing....my bad...I bundled those 2 things together b/c I was shocked at their willingness to be honest and criticize the gov’t officials running things....
What a stupid comment. I didn't defend Morris' remark.
As I said, if you are going to respond to me with a ping, at least have the courtesy to address what I said in my post, instead of posting to me inappropriate sarcasm.
And if they KNEW she was guilty, WHY didn’t they honor their honor their oaths and arrest her for murder?
People KNEW it was wrong to murder those people, and they either did NOTHING or they JOINED IN.
Either way, they’re just as guilty to my mind
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They were in Alabama....and arrested people that they had warrants to arrest in most cases...
They didn’t get all the info until after the fact as far as I remember....and Janet Reno was their superior...
Do you remember the story about Carlos Ghigliotti, the thermal imaging expert who was examining the infrared camera video of the Waco incident for Rep. Dan Burton's Congressional committee, who suddenly died of a heart attack after telling people that he found evidence of the military initiating firing on the compound?
-PJ
There’s a thread here about the FLIR project too.
Saw it the other day. Sorry, I’m too lazy to dig it up.
Is there an echo in here?
The lack of credibility can be summed up with two words: "Dick Morris". The toe sucker was a lying weasel when he worked for Slick Willie; he didn't change his stripes when the two scoundels had a falling-out.
I hope Dick Morris has plenty of security. It is amazing the number of coincidental deaths surround the Clintons.
Do you recall any thread on FR where that couldn't be said?
Well, maybe, the CBS/TANG thread. In which case, it would've been directed toward Dan Rather...
The funny thing is that the same people believe both of the following assertions:
1. Janet Reno was blackmailing Bill Clinton.Surely we can come up with enough genuine criticisms of Clinton, Reno, and the Democratic Party in general without resorting to this sort of fever-dream nonsense.2. Bill Clinton routinely had his enemies murdered with impunity.
“Bill Clinton routinely had his enemies murdered with impunity. “
Spend a coupla hours here newbie.....and then ping me...
I just posted a "do you remember" about Carlos Ghigliotti, the FLIR expert who was examining the videotape for Rep. Dan Burton when he suddenly died of a "heart attack" after telling people that he found something.
-PJ
Indeed, the difference in coverage for Republican Presidents v. Democrat Presidents is mind-boggling.
It’ll take more than a couple of hours... LOLOL!
Interesting!
However, that site also has a totally garbage number and commentary for the number of dead in the Iraq war. They must read the Lancet.
Records request denied for SLC lawyer probing brother’s death
Oklahoma City » Family believes inmate was mistaken for conspirator, that guards killed him.
By Pamela Manson
The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 04/03/2010 11:39:33 PM MDT
A federal judge in Utah says the Central Intelligence Agency can withhold documents on the Oklahoma City bombing investigation and prosecution, agreeing that the records were properly withheld for national security and other reasons.
The ruling by U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups reveals for the first time that the CIA worked with the Department of Justice on the bombing probe, according to Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue, who requested the records under the federal Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).
Twelve documents connected to the investigation were at issue, including an April 20, 1995, cable that outlines a prosecutor’s attempt to extradite an “organized crime figure from another country.” Other records include cables sent in April and May 1995 relaying information provided to a U.S. ambassador by a foreign official; information from a “foreign liaison contact” that is classified as secret; and information from a foreign government about the possible identification of a suspect in the bombing.
The general descriptions were provided by the CIA in refusing Trentadue’s FOIA requests for documents on potential involvement of foreign nationals in the attack. The lawyer — who received some documents with only the name of the agency to which they were directed and others that were withheld entirely — argues in his suit that the dozen documents should have been released to him.
The CIA says it complied with FOIA and that each document falls under a category exempting it from release. The agency and Trentadue both filed motions asking Waddoups to find in their favor in the dispute, leading to the judge’s ruling on Friday.
Trentadue believes the records could provide information about the death of his brother in a federal prison cell in Oklahoma City a few months after the April 19, 1995, bombing that killed 168 people at the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. Kenneth Trentadue, a 44-year-old convicted bank robber who was being held on an alleged parole violation, was found hanged in August 1995.
Authorities say Trentadue committed suicide, but his family believes the inmate was mistaken for a bombing conspirator and that guards strangled him with a set of plastic handcuffs in an interrogation that got out of hand. To support that theory, Jesse Trentadue has filed several lawsuits over the years in Utah’s federal court seeking records on the bombing investigation. The suit before Waddoups was filed in 2008.
Timothy McVeigh was convicted of carrying out the bombing and executed in 2001. Conspirator Terry Nichols is serving a life sentence at the U.S. Penitentiary Administrative Maximum Facility in Florence, Colo.
Documents requested by Trentadue include ones on Andreas Carl Strassmeir, a German national who he believes might have been an associate of McVeigh.
On a separate issue, Trentadue on Monday filed a motion asking Waddoups to order the government to produce videotapes collected from surveillance cameras on the exterior of the Murrah Building on the morning of the bombing. The motion says the FBI has not responded to his requests for those tapes.
And on Thursday, Trentadue filed a motion asking for the complete videotape from the cruiser of the Oklahoma Highway Patrol officer who arrested McVeigh the day of the bombing.
Trentadue alleges that the DVD provided by the FBI appears to be an edited version because it shows only the search of McVeigh’s car and not the actual arrest. He says that a Houston Chronicle article published in 1995 said the tape shows a man apparently traveling with McVeigh. The FBI has denied the story, according to Trentadue’s motion.
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I have a genuine criticism of Bill Clinton. Here it is:
He routinely had people murdered. But they weren’t his enemies. They were just in the way.
Rush just broadcast this story 1:50PM Tuesday.
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