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Pastor Manning Columbia University
Atlah Ministries ^ | 3-29-10 | Atlah Ministries

Posted on 04/10/2010 12:18:01 PM PDT by howkn

"Obama, as a 2nd Executive Order, I think on January the 21st or 22nd of 2009, signed an order which forbade any court or anyone else, to look at any records pertaining to him from kindergarten to the day he was sworn in, that you cannot, cannot re-look at, have the Freedom of Information Act implied, or anything else...if you want to know about Obama, his records are sealed permanently by his Executive Order signature." Manning

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


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To: Hostage

And such people knowingly cooperate with the CIA to undermine the people and agenda they’re dedicated to?


101 posted on 04/10/2010 4:36:11 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: howkn
Obama, as a 2nd Executive Order, I think on January the 21st or 22nd of 2009, signed an order .....

BULL DUNG! Obama's second executive order dealt specifically with the closing of Gitmo .....why people fall for this crap without the slightest attempt to verify its authenticity is beyond me......

102 posted on 04/10/2010 4:42:58 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

Wrong! Bull Dung yourself.

Executive Order — Presidential Records

Executive Order — Presidential Records

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish policies and procedures governing the assertion of executive privilege by incumbent and former Presidents in connection with the release of Presidential records by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) pursuant to the Presidential Records Act of 1978, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Definitions. For purposes of this order:

(a) “Archivist” refers to the Archivist of the United States or his designee.

(b) “NARA” refers to the National Archives and Records Administration.

(c) “Presidential Records Act” refers to the Presidential Records Act, 44 U.S.C. 2201-2207.

(d) “NARA regulations” refers to the NARA regulations implementing the Presidential Records Act, 36 C.F.R. Part 1270.

(e) “Presidential records” refers to those documentary materials maintained by NARA pursuant to the Presidential Records Act, including Vice Presidential records.

(f) “Former President” refers to the former President during whose term or terms of office particular Presidential records were created.

(g) A “substantial question of executive privilege” exists if NARA’s disclosure of Presidential records might impair national security (including the conduct of foreign relations), law enforcement, or the deliberative processes of the executive branch.

(h) A “final court order” is a court order from which no appeal may be taken.

Sec. 2. Notice of Intent to Disclose Presidential Records.

(a) When the Archivist provides notice to the incumbent and former Presidents of his intent to disclose Presidential records pursuant to section 1270.46 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist, using any guidelines provided by the incumbent and former Presidents, shall identify any specific materials, the disclosure of which he believes may raise a substantial question of executive privilege. However, nothing in this order is intended to affect the right of the incumbent or former Presidents to invoke executive privilege with respect to materials not identified by the Archivist. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.

(b) Upon the passage of 30 days after receipt by the incumbent and former Presidents of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Archivist may disclose the records covered by the notice, unless during that time period the Archivist has received a claim of executive privilege by the incumbent or former President or the Archivist has been instructed by the incumbent President or his designee to extend the time period for a time certain and with reason for the extension of time provided in the notice. If a shorter period of time is required under the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations, the Archivist shall so indicate in the notice.

Sec. 3. Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President.

(a) Upon receipt of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General (directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.

(b) The Attorney General and the Counsel to the President, in the exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of executive privilege is not justified. The Archivist shall be notified promptly of any such determination.

(c) If either the Attorney General or the Counsel to the President believes that the circumstances justify invocation of executive privilege, the issue shall be presented to the President by the Counsel to the President and the Attorney General.

(d) If the President decides to invoke executive privilege, the Counsel to the President shall notify the former President, the Archivist, and the Attorney General in writing of the claim of privilege and the specific Presidential records to which it relates. After receiving such notice, the Archivist shall not disclose the privileged records unless directed to do so by an incumbent President or by a final court order.

Sec. 4. Claim of Executive Privilege by Former President.

(a) Upon receipt of a claim of executive privilege by a living former President, the Archivist shall consult with the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel), the Counsel to the President, and such other executive agencies as the Archivist deems appropriate concerning the Archivist’s determination as to whether to honor the former President’s claim of privilege or instead to disclose the Presidential records notwithstanding the claim of privilege. Any determination under section 3 of this order that executive privilege shall not be invoked by the incumbent President shall not prejudice the Archivist’s determination with respect to the former President’s claim of privilege.

(b) In making the determination referred to in subsection (a) of this section, the Archivist shall abide by any instructions given him by the incumbent President or his designee unless otherwise directed by a final court order. The Archivist shall notify the incumbent and former Presidents of his determination at least 30 days prior to disclosure of the Presidential records, unless a shorter time period is required in the circumstances set forth in section 1270.44 of the NARA regulations. Copies of the notice for the incumbent President shall be delivered to the President (through the Counsel to the President) and the Attorney General (through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel). The copy of the notice for the former President shall be delivered to the former President or his designated representative.

Sec. 5. General Provisions.

(a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) authority granted by law to a department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budget, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

Sec. 6. Revocation. Executive Order 13233 of November 1, 2001, is revoked.

BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 21, 2009

Complete list of Obama’s Executive Orders here in reverse order.

http://1461days.blogspot.com/2009/01/current-list-of-president-obamas.html


103 posted on 04/10/2010 4:51:29 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: ETL

You don’t know how the Agency works.

There are many rings and many many compartments.

The Agency is more than capable of recruiting people that are reported to be disloyal FOR AGENCY PURPOSES. Understand?

Look, you’re trying to convince yourself that Manning is a crackpot because blah blah blah. I have shown your blah blah blah argument has holes.

Let’s see what Manning has to put on the table.

And to my fellow conservatives, regardless of Manning’s evidence, we know the MSM is going to attempt to portray him as a crackpot just as some of the posters here have attempted.

Give the MSM the middle-finger salute by telling them that Manning is Ok with you, regardless!


104 posted on 04/10/2010 4:51:50 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: sleddogs

January 21, 2009

Presidential Records

Ethics Commitments by Executive Branch Personnel
44th President, Barack Obama, Executive orders, January 24 2009, Obama’s executive orders, President Obama

January 22, 2009

Review and Disposition of Individuals Detained at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base and Closure of Detention Facilities

Review of Detention Policy Options

Ensuring Lawful Interrogations

January 30, 2009

Revocation Of Certain Executive Orders Concerning Regulatory Planning And Review

Nondisplacement of Qualified Workers Under Service Contracts

Economy in Government Contracting

Notificiation of Employee Rights Under Federal Labor Laws


105 posted on 04/10/2010 4:54:20 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: bravotu

You can find it in Wiki for sure, once you get the number of the EO. however, note that other POTUS have signed similar EOs, but they weren’t concealing all of their personal, school and birth records to begin with.


106 posted on 04/10/2010 4:58:15 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not diggin' this tyranny thing.)
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To: sleddogs
Per your own post, Executive order #2:

January 22, 2009 Review and Disposition of Individuals Detained at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base and Closure of Detention Facilities Review of Detention Policy Options Ensuring Lawful Interrogations

And for the record, the EO you are refering to has nothing to do with Obama's personal history as a civilian but rather his tenure as president as well as all previous presidents and VP's.......standard operating procedure.

I'm sure you're wearing your tinfoil hat too..............

107 posted on 04/10/2010 5:17:10 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hostage
In the context of an Agency contract, it doesn’t matter if he was for or against the Soviets.

It does if it is to be believable that Obama would have knowingly acted against the Soviet Union as Manning apparently claims.

"Obama, as an undercover agent, was the lead agent in the arms and money supply for the CIA-trained Taliban Army against the Soviet Army war machine. His actions were integral to the Taliban’s success in their opposition to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan."

http://robertscourt.blogspot.com/2010/04/obama-cia-agent.html

108 posted on 04/10/2010 5:25:21 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: sleddogs
Executive order 13233

Which was the cruxt of Obama's EO........

109 posted on 04/10/2010 5:29:45 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Nachum

ping to the EO list.


110 posted on 04/10/2010 5:31:12 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Hostage
“I TRUST THE PASTOR MORE THAN I TRUST YOUR BULLSH+T PRESIDENT!”

But I simply don't trust the pastor, and that has nothing to do with Obama. From what I can see watching his videos, the pastor is either a bit disturbed, just grandstanding for attention, of maybe a bit of both. In any case, I see no reason to believe that anything he is doing will ultimately yield results other than embarrassment and loss of credibility. If so, the conservative movement would be well advised to steer clear of it.

If he does break from the pattern in his videos and produce something coherent and credible, I will be the first to apologize to him.

111 posted on 04/10/2010 5:34:58 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: howkn
Why won’t the Dems ignore it if it’s just theater? Why so interested?

What Dems have shown interest in this trial?

112 posted on 04/10/2010 5:44:12 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Well it’s obvious whoever hacked into Manning’s database is for, rather than against Obo. They want to know what Manning has on Obo.


113 posted on 04/10/2010 5:55:00 PM PDT by howkn
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To: Hostage

You talk like you’ve been watching too many Matt Damon movies.


114 posted on 04/10/2010 5:55:47 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Show me one example where the results of Democrat policy are not the opposite of what they promise.)
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To: Hostage

The AGENCY...

The AGENCY...

The AGENCY...

Please don’t tell me you have Matt Damon posters on your wall.


115 posted on 04/10/2010 5:57:46 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Show me one example where the results of Democrat policy are not the opposite of what they promise.)
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To: Hostage

Manning has already suggested the Media’s response to him, 1) they will ignore him as long as they can 2) they will invite him on their shows in order to trash him 3) they will go back to ignoring...

Unless the trial, which claims to bring evidence that Obama lied about his Education, goes viral during the trial.


116 posted on 04/10/2010 5:59:46 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

Fascinating.

Tell me, what do you think about the possibility that Manning is being used by Obama to make certain groups look silly, or to distract them from other things?


117 posted on 04/10/2010 5:59:54 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Show me one example where the results of Democrat policy are not the opposite of what they promise.)
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To: howkn
Well it’s obvious whoever hacked into Manning’s database is for, rather than against Obo. They want to know what Manning has on Obo.

Somehow I doubt that. I'd be surprised if anyone in Obama's inner circle of advisors has ever even heard of Manning, though I'm sure he thinks every delivery van that drives past his church is full of federal agents out to get him.

118 posted on 04/10/2010 6:03:01 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: reasonisfaith

It isn’t about the seeia, it’s about Obama lying that he put in the time, passed the exams, etc in order to receive a bachelors degree from Columbia University.

That’s what the trial is about. It will set out explain how Columbia University is complicit in concealing the truth about Obo’s educational credentials.

The trial is all about Obo and Columbia University. That’s why they are marching around Columbia University for 7 days in a row during Columbia’s graduation ceremonies...if Manning’s claims are true, they want to show that a degree from Columbia University = TRASH.


119 posted on 04/10/2010 6:03:45 PM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

Just a couple things. Where is the EO that seals his school records? It is not listed with all the other EO’s on the White House website.

When would BO have learned Farsi? The Koran is written in Arabic and they don’t speak Farsi in Indonesia.

Why would the CIA need Farsi speakers in Pakistan or Afghanistan? The main language of Pakistan is Urdu. In Afghanistan it is Pashto and Dari.

If Manning’s research hasn’t answered these basic questions what makes you think the rest of his theories are any more cogent.


120 posted on 04/10/2010 6:05:53 PM PDT by registereduser
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