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ABC News: Vladimir Putin to head investigation into Polish president's death
ABC News (Australia) ^

Posted on 04/10/2010 5:49:28 AM PDT by quesney

Russia says Prime Minister Vladimir Putin will personally head the investigation into an aeroplane crash that killed Poland's president.

A total of 96 people were on board the plane that crashed near the western Russian city of Smolensk, all of whom are believed to be dead.

Polish president Lech Kaczynski was on board the Russian-built Tupolev 154 jet when it went down in heavy fog near a military airport.

Russian authorities have already said they suspect pilot error in the crash, near Smolensk, in Western Russia.

There are reports the jet made several attempted landings before the crash.

Also on board were leading members of Poland's political elite, including the army chief of staff and the governor of the central bank.

A scan of a list of 88 passengers aboard the plane published on a Polish government website showed the names of Poland's chief of staff, General Franciszek Gagor, and Major General Bronislaw, head of operational forces.

General Tadeusz Buk, head of land forces, air force commander Andrzej Blasik and special forces chief Wojciech Potasinki, as well as navy vice-admiral Andrzej Karweta, were also on the list.

They were part of an official delegation travelling to commemorate the massacre of thousands of Polish soldiers by soviet troops during the second world war.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
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To: quesney

Pass the polonium please....


101 posted on 04/10/2010 7:11:38 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: califamily4W

Electro Magnetic Pulse. It’s a device that wipes out all electronics in the vicinity. I did a term paper last semester on the fall out of a large EMP (a nuke detonated in the air, not on the ground) that would wipe out a large city and the electronics are fried. That would account for the problems with the pilot reading the instruments and the cell phones not working.


102 posted on 04/10/2010 7:13:01 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Rum Tum Tugger
“The entire top military brass, including the chief of defense and all the services, were on the plane,” said Tomas Valasek, of the Center for European Reform. “If that is true, then you’re looking at a situation, in effect, of the decapitation of the military services.”
103 posted on 04/10/2010 7:13:04 AM PDT by califamily4W
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To: califamily4W; All

““The entire top military brass, including the chief of defense and all the services, were on the plane,” said Tomas Valasek, of the Center for European Reform. “If that is true, then you’re looking at a situation, in effect, of the decapitation of the military services.””

Don’t forget economical as well. The President of the National Bank was on board too.


104 posted on 04/10/2010 7:14:40 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: califamily4W

The question that needs answering is why were so many important leaders and officials on one plane? Did Russia insist that only one plane be brought into Russia?


105 posted on 04/10/2010 7:15:42 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

I think “Governmental Commission” is an investigative commission, like the Warren Commission to investigate JFK assassignation. I think the end result will be about the same. Bunch of blathering and nothing uncovered.


106 posted on 04/10/2010 7:17:20 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: penelopesire
Sadly, answers will be few and far between.
107 posted on 04/10/2010 7:18:51 AM PDT by califamily4W
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To: penelopesire; All

That CERTAINLY needs to be addressed. I find it very unusual that the ONE plane that had ALL these very important people on it, crashes.

It reminds me of that Eqypt Air jet that had so many military on board and the muslim pilot holding the plane into a dive while the other pilot was trying to get him off the controls. The muslim pilot saying “Allah Akbar” all the way down. I think “Officially” it was plane malfunction, but anyone with common sense could see otherwise. Some idiot kamikazed an entire military elite of another country! Darn, can’t remember which country the military was in.


108 posted on 04/10/2010 7:19:41 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

Yeah..you are probably right about that.

Already Russia is calling for Russia and Poland to ‘unite’.

End game?


109 posted on 04/10/2010 7:20:26 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: quesney

Vlad the Investigator! I’m sure we’ll get a thorough and honest report.....


110 posted on 04/10/2010 7:22:18 AM PDT by clintonh8r (I always look for the union label. So I know what NOT to buy.)
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To: autumnraine

CNN seems almost giddy. Some reporter saying perhaps ‘something good can come from this’. Who would say such a thing at a time like this unless they were excited about a commie takeover?

(eye roll)


111 posted on 04/10/2010 7:22:28 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: ETL

He probably already knows how it really happened, but can now officially tell the official story, which in Russian means nothing.


112 posted on 04/10/2010 7:23:50 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: penelopesire
CNN seems almost giddy. Some reporter saying perhaps ‘something good can come from this’. Who would say such a thing at a time like this unless they were excited about a commie takeover?

You know what the word for Poland means in both Russian and German? Buffer zone.
113 posted on 04/10/2010 7:25:00 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: quesney

You know, it could just have been an accident...nothing ever happens between Russia and Poland..nothing.


114 posted on 04/10/2010 7:28:16 AM PDT by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

It’s the same M.O. they used on General Sikorski during WW II.


115 posted on 04/10/2010 7:30:02 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: quesney
Who would benefit from this tragedy.

Putin ? I don't think so.

Chechen Islamic Terrorists ???

On the other hand Poland is the only
EU country to not have a recession.


116 posted on 04/10/2010 7:31:31 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: quesney
A scan of a list of 88 passengers aboard the plane published on a Polish government website showed the names of Poland's chief of staff, General Franciszek Gagor, and Major General Bronislaw, head of operational forces.

General Tadeusz Buk, head of land forces, air force commander Andrzej Blasik and special forces chief Wojciech Potasinki, as well as navy vice-admiral Andrzej Karweta, were also on the list

This just horible!
A complete decapitation of the Polish military.

117 posted on 04/10/2010 7:32:05 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: penelopesire
Terrible risk management. I wonder who’s idea it was to put all of those people on the same plane?

Wondering about the same thing.

118 posted on 04/10/2010 7:33:49 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Never fly on a Russian built plane. Poland needs to order new Boeings asap for all their leaders now.


119 posted on 04/10/2010 7:36:06 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: thethirddegree

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Good question.


120 posted on 04/10/2010 7:36:18 AM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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