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At very best the timing of this raid is troubling, a lot going on here that remains to be pieced together.
1 posted on 03/30/2010 7:17:57 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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Looks like the link to the indictment didnt take, must have screwed it up, here it is, sorry. Hutaree Indictment here
2 posted on 03/30/2010 7:19:43 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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The defendants, David Brian Stone, David Brian Stone Jr., Joshua Matthew Stone, Tina Mae Stone, Joshua John Clough, Michael David Meeks, Thomas William Piatek, Kristopher T. Sickes and Jacob J. Ward, were variously named in a previously sealed indictment go here, Federal indictment Hutaree on 5 counts, including seditious conspiracy [USC 2384], attempt to use weapons of mass destruction [USC 2332], teaching and/or demonstrating the use of explosive devices [USC 842(p)(2)] and two counts of carrying or possessing a weapon during commission of a crime of violence [USC 924 (c)(1)].

What crime of violence was actually committed in possession of a firearm??


3 posted on 03/30/2010 7:21:50 AM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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The Dems want to create a right-wing bogey man in time for the November elections, and we won’t find out this was all smoke and mirrors until after the vote. Expect footage of this arrest to show up in DNC ads this fall.


4 posted on 03/30/2010 7:22:59 AM PDT by littleharbour
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I’m still waiting for CNN to run a story of LaLooney being arrested for threatening Eric Cantor. Maybe his own video footage of his hateful rants requires more of an attention span than guys in fatigues and SWAT teams in tanks.


5 posted on 03/30/2010 7:24:32 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Maybe ozero want’s to outdo klintoon. He want’s his own Waco.


6 posted on 03/30/2010 7:25:54 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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Yes, this needs to be investigated.

In the meantime the response we need to give is to use Obama’s own weapon against him. The response that should be given:

These people are terrible - awful, America-hating people. Talking about killing cops and specifically aiming for large casualties. They’re enemies to this nation. We have to get rid of crazies like this. You know who they remind me of? Bill Ayers. Hey, by the way, did you see that Bill Ayers shows up many times on the White House visitor logs that Obama wanted to keep hidden...


8 posted on 03/30/2010 7:26:38 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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Maybe the timing was because the group was planning to kill some law enforcement officers in April and then kill more at the funerals?


9 posted on 03/30/2010 7:27:17 AM PDT by mono
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All Obama has to do is run around the country right up until the election busting any group he thinks is a white Christian terrorist threat. Look at all the media coverage he’ll get. “Another white Christian militia group was arrested today...”

I’m sure he’s just laying the ground work to go after the Tea Party members and internet sites like F.R!


14 posted on 03/30/2010 7:33:01 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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Just when was this cop killing ‘incident’ suppose to happen? ...was it after their Anti-Christ takes over in some future event? The MSM makes it sound like it was imminent, but the time frame and circumstances for the scenario are missing. Minority Report thought crime terrorists?


16 posted on 03/30/2010 7:34:29 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Obama and Holder are conducting a campaign to criminalize political dissent. And any dissent is "politically incorrect!"

Eff him! Like the pretender said the other day. " BRING IT ON!"

18 posted on 03/30/2010 7:36:48 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante upagainst the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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The only thing suspicious to me is the media casting these thugs as right-wing. If they hated the government, I’d be surprised if they ever voted. The association is made merely because they had guns and some perverted view of Christianity.


24 posted on 03/30/2010 7:40:53 AM PDT by IamConservative (Liberty is all a good man needs to succeed.)
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IF this group targetted LEOs instead of muzzie training camps, they are idiots.

If they were after muzzie terrorists, they are being framed with these LEO charges because charging them with wanting to protect their country from terrorists would really PO the citizenry.


29 posted on 03/30/2010 7:45:48 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying Planned Parenthood to murder babies! Cut off their federal funding!)
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The timing was no surprise, I fully expected to see these things start very soon. It was the logical next step after last week's constant MSM chanting of "hate, threats, right wing, etc." Sadly, I expect to see more of these types of raids coming, then there will be the "linkage" (even when there is no credible evidence to support it), and the identification and targeting of a "wide spread conspiracy." I hesitate to even describe what will then follow.

One of the biggest obstacles that we now have in front of us as citizens of our country, is that sources of "real news," not propaganda from the state media, is going to become more and more scarce. At this point the only source of any real news on what is happening is from trusted eyewitnesses that happen to be close/near to events, and a handful of people speaking the truth on the radio and Internet sites. Unfortunately, I fear that these few remaining sources will soon be shutdown, one way or another.

31 posted on 03/30/2010 7:49:15 AM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy freedom & liberty!)
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I agree, the raid against this alleged militia group is a government planned shot across the bow of the Tea Party movement. Obama & Co. are trying to paint opponents using Constitutional rights of assembly and free speech as dangerous nuts. It’s from the playbook of the radical left.

As far as this alleged militia group, the feds are using idle talk and speculation of what they would try to do if the government forces came under the sway of the “Anti Christ” as being a terrorist act. Further, the feds are saying trolling the Internet for pipe bomb plans and then buying (allegedly) some of the parts is a felony. Well, I have a left over section of 2” galvanized pipe from a plumbing project in my parts hoard, so I guess I am a not yet caught co conspirator. See how easy it can be to be arrested? Love your America, but don’t trust the present government.


48 posted on 03/30/2010 8:38:54 AM PDT by RicocheT
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Perhaps the best way to protect Christians is to have them all wear red arm bands with crosses on them...and to confiscate any weapons they may have. And for their own safety, they should be held in government camps for awhile, at least until the right-wing militia members are found and arrested. They AND the rest of the country will be happier this way.


50 posted on 03/30/2010 8:40:34 AM PDT by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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Is this the long anticipated beginning of Obama stifling "right wing" dissent?

Does Ursus Horribilis defecate amongst the conifers?

87 posted on 03/30/2010 11:34:18 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Oathkeeper)
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"At very best the timing of this raid is troubling, a lot going on here that remains to be pieced together."

I've said it on several threads prior, "This raid was a shot over the bow of the USS Teaparty! Message sent: Disobey and you are next.

The template for this particular piece of agitprop was intiated in February when the "Tea Party is Racist" campaign started.

91 posted on 03/30/2010 3:56:03 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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