Posted on 03/26/2010 7:06:31 PM PDT by Buddygirl
Sarah Palin and John McCain appearing on Greta NOW on the FNC!
May you have peace through the NAME of Jesus the Messiah.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
You’re not paying attention.
She didn’t promise Romney anything and he never chose her for vp.
The bill that Fred Thompson - who was crowned THE "Conservative" Choice - helped sponsor. McCain was obviously not the perfect candidate, but there is no such thing. Reagan himself recognized that when he mentioned the line that goes something like "The person who votes with me 80% of the time is my friend." But based on some of Reagan's votes as governor of CA, I've no doubt some of you would have labeled him a socialist when he first ran against Carter.
Going through this thread, based on all the hysterical invectives, it sure is hard noticing any difference between some so called "conservatives" and liberals at times. It's that hysteria that may have actually cost us the election last fall by driving up McCain's negatives and suppressing the conservative turnout.
To those who think Palin should have turned on the guy who put her in the national spotlight, all I have to say is, with friends like you who consider backstabbing a virtue, who would need enemies?
You are unable to state the principle, because it doesn’t exist.
In fact, she upheld the conservative principle of honesty.
Marx was honest.
This argument against Palin will wither and die.
I’m only giving you advice—if you want to battle against Palin, you will have to come up with something new and viable for when the McCain campaign is over.
I must say your post is quite sensible.
She didn’t have to “turn” on him. She just didn’t have to go out and actively campaign for someone who continuously compromises with liberals.
But none of his followers are, for the reasons I’ve stated in this thread.
You see, the most fragile part of the socialist (progressive) is their pride. Their entire worldview is founded on the fact that they have fooled themselves into believing they are noble and honorable because they support social justice.
In truth, social justice is a mirage. Its the reflection in the mythical pond—Narcissus in love with himself.
McCain has fallen for the reflection in the pond. Palin has not, from what I can tell.
When the McCain thing is over, another argument, one that works, will be necessary for the antiPalin nuts.
Mucho Gracius (as juan would understand).
ROTFL. No, being of reasonably sound body and mind, I know like pretty much everyone here that the msm will lie through their sh*t stained teeth like they always do. The point is they will lie no matter what, and if by some miracle Juan McLiar were to win the primary, they'll lie against him in favor of a 100% 'Rat.
However, JD can let them rant on and then, maybe in the primary or general debate when his then current opponent tries to use it, he can whip out his letter from the DOJ and rub their little nose in it. And JD has the onions to do that instead of always looking to ingratiate himself with the forces of evil.
BTW I'm sorry I missed Greta's show, but I did see a short video of the old doofus with his clearly zonked out wife standing behind Palin while she spoke. Both of them looked like they'd like to sink a hatchet in her head. UGLY doesn't even start to describe it and from the description of body language and general tension in the reports on Greta's show, I'd say it was the same. These are not people confident of winning the primary, probably based on their internal polling. That's probably why they need to exploit Palin to such an extent even though they clearly hate her.
McCain showed up at a Teaparty I attended a week ago. Neither his wife nor Sarah were there. The organizers said it would not be a campaign event and the reason JD was not being invited was that this was to "have our elected representative, Senator McCain, let us know what's going on in Washington." Well, it WAS a campaign event to a full house in the high school auditorium. Fortunately IMO it backfired big time.
The organizers may have hoped to promote McCain and the audience was largely excited and very welcoming to him to begin with, but questions were FAIRLY allowed (gotta give credit, especially when giving discredit as well) and were not prescreened. Very little was said about Palin at least while I was there--I had to leave about an hour early.
The Palin reference I saw went as follows: McCain was asked about Cap and Trade especially now that the hoax on AGW was exposed, energy independence, etc. and he launched into a long screed about how we need nuclear and how, despite the fact that "all of us want to decrease carbon emissions", he wouldn't be voting for C&T because of the state of the economy. (I expect that as soon as the NYT pronounces an improvement on the economy, he'll feel free to vote yes on C&T)
When the questioner at the end of that campaign speech asked, what about drilling for oil?, McCain got very sarcastic and said, "Oh yeah. Drill, baby, drill. I remember that." He looked and sounded like he would have liked to spit on the floor IMO. Then he went on and repeated his nuclear thingie (pretty safe as most of us agree on that one and it's also safely in the future instead of helping us right now) and added in solar, wind... Never did face the question about drilling.
There were several exchanges on other subjects (including illegal aliens) where he was just as busy ignoring the actual question and pimping for himself instead of answering. The house got quieter and quieter with each evasion and obvious anti-conservative position. On immigration which he finally had to give some kind of answer, he said we need to control the border and set up carefully controlled programs for guest workers who'll do the work Americans don't want to do, and we'll have to deal with other questions later...
I'm pretty sure he caused several hundred people who were absolutely going to vote for him into at least giving it a lot of thought and I hope figuring out that it BETTER be JD they vote for.
There is no question ignoring a campaign request from the McCain camp would have been perceived as a snub. The MSM would have had a field day with it. Right now, the Republicans appear as a very united party with their solidarity against Obamacare. That will really help them in November. They don't need something like a perceived Palin snub to give the impression of division. I question Hayworth's wisdom far more than Palin's.
Quoting Reagan is not a good excuse for supporting moderates who compromise with liberals. People act as if they invoke the name of Reagan and it excuses the failings of the modern Republican Party. Rush and others are saying that Republicans have now learned their lesson. Have they truly learned their lesson? The proof is in the pudding.
Recently there was a proposal in the Senate to ban earmarks. How may Republicans voted for it?
15
The Republican Party has not yet learned its lesson. In the era of Reagan his injunction to never speak ill of a fellow Republican was valid. We are in a new era, and in this new era, the weaknesses of the Republican Party have their source within the party. In this new era, Reagan would object to using his name to absolve those who remain a part of the problem.
Arturo is right.
I think everyone on here needs to chill.
Every major potential candidate Romney included have issued support for McCain.
I also think everyone is reading too much into this immigration stance by Palin. She said she supports the idea of strong border control. She never said she supports amnesty. She did say that she doesn’t agree with John on everything but he is a federalist and believes in smaller government and less waste. That is the big picture right now.
Shoot all you want but your only shooting yourselves in the foot by expecting perfection from someone who is not running for anything.
Palin is fighting harder to save our freedom and putting herself out there more than anyone else for the sake of our country. She is being attacked from all sides and still stands strong for the constitution. Even some of my most favorite conservatives only put themselves out there to a point. Sarah is all in and has earned my respect.
Its not the liberals tearing this country apart, it is the infighting amongst the conservatives led by Romney and his bots aided and abetted by the more than happy liberal media.
I’m not anti-Palin.
I like her and support her, and I think she is making a big mistake.
Her strength (heretofore) lies in her aggressive, unapologetic expression of what we all believe.
We do not believe in McCain.
It’s a mistake, and its the kind of mistake that McCain made during his career.
It’s too late for McCain. It’s not too late for Sarah Palin.
Yet.
“There is no question ignoring a campaign request from the McCain camp would have been perceived as a snub. The MSM would have had a field day with it.”
The fact that you care is exactly the problem.
MSM is going to have a field day anyway. Their best weapon against conservatives is making them ashamed of themselves.
And it works every time. Look at your own reactions to understand why.
Best thing would be for JD to beat McCain so Sarah can then campaign with JD in August. If anybody was listening at the end, she as much as said she would campaign for JD if he won.
“Every major potential candidate Romney included have issued support for McCain.”
Exactly the problem.
Also this “infighting” is what serves to help us figure out what we really believe, and not end up with a candidate that’s made to be acceptable to the liberal press.
McCain was bought off by Soros. He was never going to win anyway. MCCain -Feingold put Democrats in total control of the govt and we may be screwed for good now. Bush should have veto’ed. McCain hates conservatives.
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