Now, is it time to take the birth certificateissue seriously?

[paythefiddler]

this would be a direct way to kill the bill

[hoosiermama]

The editing of the documentations Nanzi P signed for each state needs to be reintroduced and sent to ALL MSM that are known to listen. She has really set herself up as being corrupt and this falls into the pattern.

My suggestion is to send both and ask the media to explain the discrepancy.

[hoosiermama]

PLEASE send Diogenesis’ post to

Me@glennbeck.com
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put in Drudge tip box.

Start a thread with just this information!

and send to anywhere else that people will listen.

[Eagle Eye]

Forget the BC we should fight strictly on the issues. /s

[Eagle Eye]

First off, being a US citizen isn’t good enough. His father was a British citizen which at best gives Obama dual citizenship. He is NOT a natural born citizen.

The Dems just legalized socialistic slavery and you’re worried about how they may perceive us?

Get real.

[Non-Sequitur]

this would be a direct way to kill the bill

No it wouldn't.

[Non-Sequitur]

Supposedly the first person arrested on any bill Obama signs can demand his BC as part of their defense.

Good luck on that defense.

[rxsid]

Yes. This IS an issue that must be addressed. After-all, how can a USURPER sign something into law? How can a USURPER command our military?

Want to stop all of his progressive/socialist/marxists actions? Demand that someone born the subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England can not now, nor ever be considered a Natural Born Citizen of the United States. His precedent of usurping the Constitution can not be allowed to stand the test of a full 4 year term. Otherwise, others born with allegiance to foreign countries can be "pushed" into the Commander in Chief role.

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

It can't. Of course not. Yet, right there, on his campaign web site F.T.S., it's stated that a foreign government "governed" Barry from birth and the reason it did, was that Barry inherited that foreign citizenship by way of his foreign national father (no matter where he was born). Assuming, of course, that Sr. was his legal father at birth.
How, then, could he possibly be a "Natural Born Citizen" of the U.S.?
Barry Soetoro, the divided citizen at birth!

http://www.jeffersonsrebels.blogspot.com

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate based on the word of 1 relative. That is how a foreign born baby could get a HI BC on record, which in turn generates the "birth announcements" in the newspapers.

[little jeremiah]

And that’s exactly why his ineligibility is the shaft that hits the very heart of the Constitution.

If it does not matter that the supposed President is not even eligible, then anything goes.

[Red Steel]

Now, is it time to take the birth certificateissue seriously?

As Obama screws up more and more , more people as time goes on may give this issue a rethink and relook. And someone may eventually leak damning proof about Obama's hidden past.

[Red Steel]

No it wouldn't.

Your girl Obama's administration would end for sure.

[Non-Sequitur]

Your girl Obama's administration would end for sure.

True. But it would have no impact on the recently passed health care legislation.

[Spaulding]

Yes El Gato, we've had this discussion before, and I can understand your viewpoint, but believe our founders would have added that condition if they wanted it. They didn't make Vattel our common law, they chose the provisions they wanted to enforce. If our legislators wanted to amend the Constitution to include section 217 provisions for military and state department employees I would probably be supportive - certainly for families of the military. The issue is complicated, which may be why the founders kept it simple; “born on the soil of citizen parents.” We allow people to earn citizenship by joining the military. Their children may not have been born of citizen parents! Do we consider that they had absolute allegiance?

Our supreme court is supposed to interpret the constitution. If we believe Mark Levin who quoted James Madison (though Mark doesn't act on his stated beliefs):

“I entirely concur in the propriety of resorting to the sense in which the Constitution was accepted and ratified by the nation. In that sense alone it is the legitimate Constitution. And if that be not the guide in expounding it, there can be no security for a consistent and stable, more than for a faithful exercise of its powers. If the meaning of the text be sought in the changeable meaning of the words composing it, it is evident that the shapes and attributes of the Government must partake of the changes to which the words and phrases of all living languages are constantly subject. What a metamorphosis would be produced in the code of law if all its ancient phraseology were to be taken in its modern sense. And that the language of our Constitution is already undergoing interpretations unknown to its founders, will I believe appear to all unbiased Enquirers into the history of its origin and adoption.”

The phrase in Vattel made someone born across the seas into an imputed jus soli citizen. The danger comes in defining who does the “imputing.”

We agree that Obama is without any doubt an ineligible president because of his alien father. That no officer of the court, no legislator will protect the Constitution is criminal - which may be why they aren't saying anything.

What charges would apply I don't know - perhaps misprison of felony? Obama took campaign funds on the basis of his presidential eligibility, though never personally defined himself as a natural born citizen. He described himself as a "native born U.S. citizen" to prepare in case ineligiblity every went to the courts. He knew very well what he was doing. Our legislators will lose their jobs, their freedom, their health care, and pave the way to real insurrection rather than say a word about a man born of an alien father in the White House. Have they not the courage to stand up to the media watch dogs who would certainly use the Alinsky technique, name calling. The truth is in the words of our founders and the more honest of our supreme court justices for anyone to read - Marshall, Waite, Story, Kent. The courageous author of the 14th Amendment, Ohio congressman and abolitionist John Bingham said to the joint session of Congress as he argued for the passage of the 14th Amendment that about natural born citizens "... there has never been doubt"; he referred to the Vattel definition. They all clarified the meaning of citizenship.

Our herd of sheep in Washington must all be replaced. I am disappointed in Levin, in Roberts, in Justices Thomas, Scalia, Alito. Beck has pointed us in the right direction. I don't think he has the confidence of his new-found convictions to believe that such a blatant violation of the Constitution could be tolerated by so many. He and Levin have both pointed to the right people. They haven't had the strength to risk their careers by challenging the biggist lie, that our legislature approved the son of an alien, violating our Constitution, even while they met a half dozen times to insure that another violator of the natural born citizen provision could run. Had McCain won, it is interesting to wonder whether they would have challenged his eligibility as many had, including two lawsuits settled out of court.

And, for everyone to see, every senator signed the resolution in 2008, SenRes. 511, claiming to make McCain a natural born citizen BECAUSE BOTH OF HIS PARENTS WERE CITIZENS, as required by Article II Section 1. No one forgot the definition. They are career politicians and afraid of the thugs who discovered that Nathan Deal of Georgia might have ethics violations, just after Deal inquired about Obama’s qualification for office.

For Obama’s people, and for Stalin and Lenin, the end justifies the means. The only way out may be the path of the USSR, financial collapse. What will rise out of the dust even my children may not experience. I'll fight for as long as I have to return to the rule of law governed by the Constitution of 1789 and not the new Constitution discussed by Obama when he was an Illinois Senator.

[Non-Sequitur]

If obama was born in Hawaii(big if!) with partial aligience at birth then he is a Native born naturlized citizen.

Assuming you mean 'native born naturalized citizen' then wouldn't that be an oxymoron?

[Red Steel]

True. But it would have no impact on the recently passed health care legislation.

Oh, but the path to appealing that atrocity would be so much easier...and that would happen way before it could take any real effect.

[Non-Sequitur]

Oh, but the path to appealing that atrocity would be so much easier...and that would happen way before it could take any real effect.

I don't see this bill surviving the legal challenge. And that would mean that any appeal would be done by Obama and his people.

[Red Steel]

You mean all the state nullification laws that are about to opt out of it, and the many state Attorney Generals filing suits against ObamaCare? Yeah, the thing is not going to make it past the court Constitutional challenges.

[rxsid]

Brilliant Spaudling.

Truly magnificent, as usual.

[rxsid]

Spaulding...that is.

:^)

[Non-Sequitur]

You mean all the state nullification laws that are about to opt out of it, and the many state Attorney Generals filing suits against ObamaCare.

The nullification laws aren't constitutional either. All they may do is hasten the review of the health care law by the Supreme Court. And like I said I don't see that passing judicial review.

[Frantzie]

The obama voter is back.