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(VANITY) Anyone else think (we)Republicans are being set up on the Health Care Bill??

Posted on 03/15/2010 7:45:50 PM PDT by jakerobins

The whole Health Care Bill is a set-up in my oppinion. Obama doesn't care if Dems lose Congress or even if he loses in 2012. He has said that he would rather be a "Good" one term President.....My theory is he is trying to get as much of his Socialist structure thru passed by congress or Presidential Executive order to set up the game for the left's end-game. They Plan on losing in 2010 and 2012 and counting on the citizens short attention span and memory. So that in 2014,2016 ect....they can come back and say look at how bad the economy was under President X and look at how high taxes are......Then they will once again offer more Leftist solutions to fix our problems that they broke....Insuring Democrat/Socialist rule for the next 30-40 years....We are headed for one party rule...UNLESS WE THE CITIZENS STAND UP AND MAKE THE DEMS "OWN" their own failures....


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1 posted on 03/15/2010 7:45:50 PM PDT by jakerobins
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Or they could just be bat excrement crazy.


2 posted on 03/15/2010 7:48:36 PM PDT by Stentor
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Of course he doesn't care if a few RAT legislators have to fall on their sword - he probably even doesn't care if he only serves 4 years. That RAT party is constructing their foundation for their MARXIST Government that they intend to run into perpetuity. They know very well that if they can just get to the tipping point where 51% of the public is dependent on their Government, they have it made. Soft tyranny heading to hard tyranny. The walls and furnishings for the RAT house will be coming in future Congresses when it is returned to the RATS for their birthright control.
3 posted on 03/15/2010 7:51:02 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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No just the opposite. I think the dems are trying to kill the process. If the pass a HC Bill, then they lose a base. It’s complicated. Think of it this way, once you solve a woman’s problem you become the problem.


4 posted on 03/15/2010 7:51:24 PM PDT by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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It is not that we are being set up. The country willingly voted for these radicals in 06 and 08. We are just fighting to prevent permanent damage.


5 posted on 03/15/2010 7:51:52 PM PDT by ilgipper
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Yup just like they say how bad the last 8 years were, even though they have been in charge of most of Washington since the elections of 2006.


6 posted on 03/15/2010 7:52:36 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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We keep getting articles saying they don’t have the numbers for health care to pass, but I don’t trust any of it.

I know people tend to grossly underestimate how powerful the Speaker of the House is when it comes to twisting arms to deliver votes.


7 posted on 03/15/2010 7:54:35 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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I’m a guy...from experience I can tell you that I am more unqualified to solve a womans problems than Obama is for the White House.....LOL (At least that’s what most Women I’ve dated said)


8 posted on 03/15/2010 7:54:43 PM PDT by jakerobins
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“...good one term President...”

That’s like saying Hitler was a good one-term Dictator...”


9 posted on 03/15/2010 7:54:51 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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hey Plan on losing in 2010 and 2012 and counting on the citizens short attention span and memory.

They don't plan on losing any elections because they have a plan to corrupt the voting process as detailed in the following article. Soros Eyes Secretaries
10 posted on 03/15/2010 7:55:23 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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We were being set up when Barry called his little PR meeting a few weeks back seeking a GOPer to sign on, so that he could call it “bi-partisan” as it went down in flames. Thankfully, there were no takers.


11 posted on 03/15/2010 7:55:52 PM PDT by festusbanjo (It's not that we tax too little, it's that we spend too damn much!)
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LOL....yeah I’m using “His” words....he thinks he will be a good one term President as long as he gets his Marxist legislation passed......


12 posted on 03/15/2010 7:56:52 PM PDT by jakerobins
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I think the repubs have calculated that if they sit back and only put up a marginal fight they will win in November. That’s all this is to them, an opportunity to get votes. They are all scum.


13 posted on 03/15/2010 7:58:24 PM PDT by JoSixChip (It's time to embrace the madness! The sooner we default the sooner we can reorganize.)
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Yes, that is the whole crux behind ponzi schemes and communism. You can never really ever get to the end, the revolution never can end, otherwise then you have to give up the power. With ponzi schemes you haveto keep getting more and more people suckered in.

Socialism is only the intermediate step to communism, because there is still a small ruling elite class (dems) and their cronies, and then the rest of us rubes (proletariat). They say they aren’t any better than we are, and that when the revolution is over, there will be no more structure or ruling class because there won’t need to be. But the lie is that the revolution NEVER ENDS and the elite get to stay in power forever. It can’t end or then they have to give up their power.

Everyone else is the problem except the ruling elite. Look how the dems (and some repubs, RINOs and libs mostly) scream at others as the problem, those with much less power and money than the ruling politicians control (and waste, and mismanage so badly that wed never hire them to be a bagboy at our grocery store). Everyone else is the problem. Deflect, deflect, divide and conquer.

People are wising up. We know who’s responsible. The ones runnning our deficit to Mars. The ones who want a USSA. The ones ignoring the constitutional process and ignoring the will of the people over this. They will be paying for it one way or another.


14 posted on 03/15/2010 7:59:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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He, and the democrats (Marxists all) have put a clause in this bill prohibiting the repeal of it. They think they can tell future Congresses how to vote or what kind of bill they can bring up. THAT is how arrogant they are. This bill trashes the Constitution. It must NOT pass.


15 posted on 03/15/2010 8:00:09 PM PDT by gidget7 ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson)
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That and all the new union workers.


16 posted on 03/15/2010 8:00:33 PM PDT by luv2ndamend (They call themselves greens because they're too yellow to admit they're reds.)
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I'm certain that it's simpler than people would believe. Job #1 is to get a bare framework through, though the more complete the framework the better, then fill in the blanks over time at their leisure through regulatory and legislative action. The slick move to go would be get the "framework" crammed through and then........quiet. Then they would count on the unsophisticated to muse upon what all the hubbub was about, "those Tea Party people were stupid, nothing bad happened." Then say, two years later a real whammy hits. Six months after that - pow! - and so on and so forth until they get every part they want activated while most everyone (...except folk like us...) is standing around like a bunch of dummies. The immediate wildcard in this though is if they stay the course on getting a bunch of fees and taxes implemented right off the bat, which would set up the circumstances to send a lot of our economic sectors off into the ditch pronto.
 
 

17 posted on 03/15/2010 8:01:30 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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I think leftists pigs are such that they will vote to get this into the law, reguardless of what the public thinks...once in, wimpy pubs will let it be..

the dims will loose seats but they will be overall happy that they get to control my entire life...

18 posted on 03/15/2010 8:02:17 PM PDT by cherry
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I have maintained from before the election, that BHO was content to fall on the barbed wire so that others could clamber over his body and achieve their objective. This makes him the ideological equivalent of a suicide bomber. Trying to ascribe logical motives to him is illogical.


19 posted on 03/15/2010 8:12:55 PM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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Setup, fixed, or weakness. Whether they pass it or not.

We will get an opportunity in 2013 to damage the left’s positions.

I doubt that we have the will or the stones to do it, but.

Repeal the left’s accomplishments like Sherman marched to the sea.

Repeal the endangered species act.

Eliminate the EPA.

De-fund NPR, PBS, NEA, Dept of Education, etc.

Cut the FCC by 80%, OSHA by 80%, etc.

Drop most restrictions on domestic energy production.

Remove all but safety regulations on nuke power plants.

Grant the first 200 drilling and nuke permits the same day filed.

Fire/layoff as many unionized government workers as possible.

No new people added to SS or Medicare 30 years and younger. Then let them credit the first 25k/y put toward retirement. Then deduct any additional money set aside.

Limit class action suit attorneys fees to expenses +5% of the award.

Do all this in 200 days.

Make sore no Dems vote for any of these measures.

Make it so the left has to spend another 200 years to get back to where they are today. And, then work to stop them at every turn.

Scorch the earth under as many leftist’s measures as possible.

I know, I know, but a man can dream...


20 posted on 03/15/2010 8:18:39 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain OnTheDress)
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