Posted on 03/13/2010 7:51:20 AM PST by quesney
Can't believe the National Review buried this nugget in the article. Disturbing, to say the least.
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Stupak notes that his negotiations with House Democratic leaders in recent days [about the health care plan] have been revealing. I really believe that the Democratic leadership is simply unwilling to change its stance, he says. Their position says that women, especially those without means available, should have their abortions covered. The arguments they have made to him in recent deliberations, he adds, are a pretty sad commentary on the state of the Democratic party.
What are Democratic leaders saying? If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. Thats one of the arguments Ive been hearing, Stupak (a pro-Life Democrat opposing the bill) says. Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America? If money is the issue come on, we can find room in the budget. This is life were talking about.
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http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzU0MDYxMWEyOTdiNGU1OGU3ZjYzYmE3Y2ZlZDQ5NTY=
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Stupak is either:
1. Lying—he’s just putting up a pretense for the benefit of the voters in his congressional district.
2. Stupid—how could he not know abortion is the sacrament of the democrat party/anti-life cult.
The illegal immigrants here are millions now, and the Democrats have the majority of their votes. The whole system is upside down and crazy, They came to America illegally; but ... we need them to obtain drivers licenses, they rarely are insured as required by law. One of them buys a 6 month policy, gets a license, transfers the license, (because they gave the car to their relative), and they also use the same insurance to obtain a drivers license and so on. Then they can use the drivers license for identification purposes, and to VOTE in elections. The Democrats love this.
In America now, the birth rate of new babies being born are at 50% for Latino births. They will soon be the majority of the nation; and Americans will be in the minority.
We are in MAJOR DIRE STRAIGHTS; and reaching critical mass which will change America into a near third world nation. Between welfare programs and misusing social security funds we are all, but bankrupt too.
That is the whole intention. Sad to say. Open eyes can see the plan developing at breakneck speed. Listen to Obama’s coming legislation's, on energy, green programs, a Immigration amnesty of some sort, increased taxes. Intentions to create $7.00 gasoline, to curtail need for polluting cars; erosion of private property rights, denying know oil reserves to be drilled, denying water rights to California farmers for their crops, our major food producers, look at the jobless, look at teaching to the test in our schools. Children are graduating; however, many do not have a sufficient education to know history of our nation, how our government works, How America was settled and why. Who were Our founding fathers, the United States Constitution, the persecution of Christians is gathering speed, leaning in the direction of using U.N.International law, in America. Obama has in training a young group for a National Security Force, WHY? And much more. Look how this health care plan is still being forced. Look at he recent $200 billion dollars given to Brazil to drill offshore water for oil reserves, belonging to SOROS, China is to buy the oil produced. America gets nothing out of the deal ... except good will. LOL! Enough already. That is all for now, but the facts are we do not have friends in charge of our government. MO.
Read the history of Russia from the Revolution forward. That is where we are headed. NO joke.
Watch "Doctor Zhivago", the movie ... the backdrop of it is the Russian Revolution and aftermath. We are about to lose our nation to communism, socialism, or Marxism. We must rouse ourselves out of our passive acceptance ... that this is America and nothing bad can happen here.
Father help us in our day, in Jesus name, amen.
Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts.
PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District
Code Red - House Target List on Health Care
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obamas announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the fixer bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)
On the Bubble (Major developments from the yes and no columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts
Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter
WOMENS HEALTH SERVICES
Friggin no good traitorous bastards (and bitches!)
With regard to the bill, I initially thought: this isn’t really a battle over healthcare—it’s about socialism vs. freedom.
Now I realize it’s not even about that, it’s about life vs. death.
These people are sick. That’s a Ted Bundy mindset. It is also the mindset of a slave owner. A sociopathic slave owner.
Room in the budget? Stupak may be appalled at the other death cult ghoul's callous view of life but he is still clueless about what it means to be an American. Who does he think fills the coffers to pay for that budget? Why does he think that budget needs to exist? It is the government's budget not the people's. We don't need it. It doesn't benefit us. We certainly don't seem to have any say about it.
The DEMOniC-RATS...
Hey now, why are you giving Ted Bundy a bad name?
[straight face]
These self-important blood suckers not only want to put all of the debt they are creating on future generations they want insure that they will be too few and too weak to bear the burden. They are writing the destruction of this nation in blood.
Indeed, they've been doing it to us for decades, that's why we have RINOs. I've been saying for years that Mike Ditka should run as a "D," he'd be unstoppable.
This is correct, they will attempt to preserve a warped perverted Socialist Utopia where the middle class is eliminated and humiliated and starved while the elites dine on Kobe Beef and the rare lobster that they deem to be worthy of their consumption.
This is despicable.
Describes the EXACT justification for the creation of death panels - no matter what they end up being called, Public Wellness Adjudicators or whatever - death panels is what they will be.
One of my kids was the result of a condom - when I felt I had had enough i had my tubes tied. My youngest had hers done two years ago after surgery for cervical cancer, but she had already had three and figured that was enough....last December my oldest daughter also had hers done after her second son was born (and after a second problem pregancy).
There's also the Pill, the Patch and shots.
Why is it that murdering our unborn children is the only method of "birth control" that liberals deem acceptable?
"NO" needs to go to 216.
Key Congressmen, TOLL-FREE: Call this number, and when the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senators office. 1-866-220-0044You dont have to be a local constituent to use this toll-free number. Everyone knows this is a national issue: the NO votes will be blessed by people across the country, and the YES votes will face --- we can guarantee this --- personal shame and lasting political ruin. Harry Mitchell (AZ-5) Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8) Ann Kirkpatrick (AZ-1) Jerry McNerney (CA-11) John Salazar (CO-3) Jim Himes (CT-4) Alan Grayson (FL-8) Bill Foster (IL-14) Baron Hill (IN-9) Bart Stupak (MI-1) Gary Peters (MI-9) Dina Titus (NV-3) Tim Bishop (NY-1) John Hall (NY-19) Bill Owens (NY-23) Mike Arcuri (NY-24) Dan Maffei (NY -25) Earl Pomeroy ND (At-Large) Steven Driehaus (OH-1) Mary Jo Kilroy (OH-15) Zach Space (OH-18) Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3) Patrick Murphy (PA-8) Christopher Carney (PA-10) Paul Kanjorski (PA-11) John Spratt (SC-5) Bart Gordon (TN-6) John S. Tanner (TN-8) Tom Perriello (VA-5) Alan Mollohan (WV-1) Nick Rahall (WV-3) Steve Kagen (WI-8)
And the very well-organized Susan B. Anthony List is running radio ads in Nine (9) Key Congressional Districts represented by Pro-Life Democrats. They are strongly urging those Congressmen to STAND FIRM and vote NO on DeathCare.
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The reality is that government theft is the norm and at least birth control pills are cheaper and don’t involve killing a human being.
The reality is that too many people can’t/won’t abstain no matter the consequence. And too many of them think that a free abortion is of no consequence.
I don’t like it but that’s the reality.
And liberal democrats do their best every day to display themselves as perfect examples that this is true.
I think I can support waiting to overturn Roe v Wade until the democrats have aborted an entire generation of little democrats.
Is this fight about what’s best for a political party?
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