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More Democrats come out against health care bill [Four from KY, IL, SD and NC]
CNN ^ | March 12, 2010 | Charles Riley and Jeff Simon

Posted on 03/12/2010 8:40:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

As House Democratic leaders advised their members Friday to prepare for a legislative battle over health care that could stretch through next weekend, four additional rank-and-file Democrats have come out against the Obama administration's signature domestic priority.

Reps. Ben Chandler of Kentucky, Luiz Gutierrez of Illinois, Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin of South Dakota and Heath Shuler of North Carolina say they will vote against their party's health care plan, which may be headed to a final vote late next week.

"At this time, I am a 'no' vote on health care," said Gutierrez in a written statement. "It's no secret that I have been critical of proposals that would exclude our nation's hardworking immigrants from the health care exchange, and I would find it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to vote for any measure that denies undocumented workers health care purchased with their own dollars."

According to an ongoing CNN survey, 21 House Democrats have now indicated they will vote against the Senate bill when it comes to the floor, though six of those members say they would consider voting for it if it were significantly modified. Opponents of the bill need a total of 38 Democrats to vote against the measure to ensure its defeat, assuming that all Republican members remain unified in their opposition.

Some members made clear that their votes are not negotiable. Josh Taylor, a spokesman for Texas Rep. Chet Edwards, told CNN the congressman "voted 'no' on health care the first time around and will vote 'no' the second."

Proponents of the health care plan need 216 votes in order to pass the Senate plan. As of Friday, no Republicans said they would vote in favor of the bill, which would mean Democratic leaders must rely solely on votes from its own members.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Kentucky; US: North Carolina; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; congress; democrats; healthcare; illinois; kentucky; liberalfascism; northcarolina; obamacare; prolife; reconciliation; socialism; socialisthealthcare; socializedmedicine; southdakota
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

The threat is stronger than the execution.

- Nimzovich (chess master 1886 – 1935)

141 posted on 03/13/2010 11:14:55 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: WashingtonSource

Schuler voted no.


142 posted on 03/13/2010 11:22:28 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: LS
they have now STRIPPED the Cornhusker Bailout and the Louisiana Purchase from the bill.

Forget about the reconciliation bill, there will be no reconciliation bill, just the Senate bill, and this junk is in it.

143 posted on 03/13/2010 11:59:27 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Pray for my soul. More things are wrought by prayer Than this world dreams of.-- Idylls of the King)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping.


144 posted on 03/13/2010 12:20:58 PM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

B U M P


145 posted on 03/13/2010 12:46:03 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Holy Cr@p


146 posted on 03/13/2010 1:25:18 PM PST by fivecatsandadog (You better HOPE you end up with a little CHANGE in your pocket after he's finished.)
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To: pctech

If they had the votes they would have already passed the thing.


147 posted on 03/13/2010 1:55:33 PM PST by Lawdoc (My dad married my aunt, so now my cousins are my brothers. Go figure.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bump


148 posted on 03/13/2010 2:14:08 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More Democrats come out against health care bill....

Poor BArry;
At this rate, he'll have to postpone his trip anOTHER week!

149 posted on 03/13/2010 2:47:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's no secret that I have been critical of proposals that would exclude our nation's hardworking immigrants from the health care exchange,

Sounds like the bill just isn't fat enough....let's just invite the entire planet to the U.S. and we'll just be their slaves....somehow I don't think that will stop the anti-capitalism rhetoric.

150 posted on 03/13/2010 4:44:51 PM PST by Taggart_D
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To: Cementjungle

151 posted on 03/13/2010 6:19:08 PM PST by 4Liberty ( we have a rat problem .)
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To: 4Liberty

152 posted on 03/13/2010 6:20:00 PM PST by 4Liberty ( we have a rat problem .)
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To: LS

Cao is voting NO. He’s anti-abortion.


153 posted on 03/13/2010 6:21:11 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It looks like KenyaCare WILL be rammed through. So, we need to be planning the RESISTANCE to this. Secession and other kinds of aggressive, history-making actions should be on the table.

What is the next step? We need to be thinking like the folks back in 1776!


154 posted on 03/13/2010 6:47:22 PM PST by USALiberty
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To: mwl8787

So why did he vote yes first time around? Cause the House version didn’t have the abortion plank from the Senate bill?


155 posted on 03/13/2010 7:33:06 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bttt


156 posted on 03/13/2010 8:38:41 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Kozak

He wants money and more illegals coming in.


157 posted on 03/14/2010 3:06:38 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: caww

Are you saying you think that Congress will consent to be covered by ObamaCare and give up their all-American multi-option care? Think again!!


158 posted on 03/14/2010 7:26:40 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: browniexyz

of course they won’t give up their cadillac heathcare...but it is interesting there are some in congress calling for this.


159 posted on 03/14/2010 10:44:00 AM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ExTexasRedhead

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts.

KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE

Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts

Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter
And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.
At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.
When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!
We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!
1-800-828-0498
1-866-220-0044


160 posted on 03/14/2010 10:56:50 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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